Hi all,

For now just this pic, when I am back home later this day I'll take some more and post them in this thread as well!

This pic was taken at the Armorama stand during a meeting in the Netherlands, past saturday. In the back you can see my Sherman and Tiger

Well, back to the 251/22:



More pics will follow soon

Btw, remember it's still in progress.....I know the exhaust needs rust, and the tracks need to be weathered etc etc

Martin

Far too much paint-chipping for my taste - German vehicles simply didn't 'chip' as much as other nationalities...Jim

How come they didn't chip that much?

I'm pretty satisfied with the result

Martin

Simply put, the quality of the paint was extraordinarily high as was the red-oxide undercoating used.

"To chip or not to chip". That is the question.
Whether its right or wrong, I wont go into that.

When I look at this vehicle I see a nice camo job, but it all looks very flat. None of the actual vehicle details stand out. The only thing that stands out is the actual chips. There appears to be too much contrast between the flat camo and the stark chips and this adds to Jims point. If the bright camo is toned down due to weathering, one would imagine most of the chips would be toned down also .. apart from any new ones.
Eventhough, drybrushing and washes are not as "trendy" as they used to be, they provided a great effect in highlighting detail.
Maybe when all the other items are painted up, it will calm down the chipping contrast.
Using this information to be constructive, I believe you need to add depth, to details like the visor plates and panel lines. Chipping is a good tool to add to the defination effect, but relying on chipping alone to define detail, and being as stark as it is here, may give the wrong impression. Thats how it appears to me from this photograph.
Its also possible that if a metallic paint was used in the chip colour, it could appear brighter or be reflected in the photograph. Your call!

Also no crew would get away with letting their vehicle deteriorate to that extend... Vehicles where either engaged in battle at the front, or maintained in the rear.


I really like how you're camo has come out though, looks like you mastered the Airbrush technique well.


Cheers
Henk

Hey

I'm far from done yet. Washes, drybrushing, rainmarks, mud and/or dust.......depth is something the halftrack doesn't yet have, I'm not that far already

I'll post pics soon after I've done more weathering

Have to agree with Martin here, this is a WIP. I don't recall seeing too many shinny black tires in any parking lot, let alone combat condition. So I'm sure things will level out tonally. To me it's looks very nice, keep em coming.

As for whos paints chipped more, gosh i guess it really depends on who painted what, with what as a thinner, Where it was painted (factory vs. field) what the humidity and air temp were, if a repaint, how the old paint was prepaired etc. Too many variables to really say IMHO. I can say in pics I have seen more chipping on Axis armor than Allied. But that is a purly antidoital.

I think Martin builds like I do.He makes a clean new vehicle,then lets the weathering tone down the overall effect.As for there being less chipping,a lot could depend on the terrain the vehicle comes in contact with.
Armor moving over the Steppes would not bang into trees which could damage the paint up high.An Urban used vehickle would have building bits falling on it...

Also,this vehicle may have lasted long enought to experiance chipping. (++) (++)

Nice job Martin, looking forward to seeing it all dirtied up. As for the paint chips, I don't care what type of paint you have and where it is applied, it will chip and flake off, through the primer down to the metal. I served eleven years on the M1 series tanks, and our tracks never took the abuse or fire that German tanks did, and we had scratches and chips. Just going through a tree line would leave scrapes, dings you name it, and I guarantee that our paint is just as good if not better than what Germany had in WW II. But what it all boils down to is what you like, and what is pleasing to your eye. Jim has a point for a factory fresh vehicle, but I don't think that is what you are modeling. Keep up the good work.
regards,
Robert

Hi Martin

Great looking half track!

I would suggest that try not to 'chipped' the paints in the same pattern. The pattern i see here is, they are all 'rounded'. Try to add in a scratch line, horizontally and vertically. Some of your chipped parts are small enough and can be 'extended' to depict scratch lines.

I agree with Robert and tanks (German or allied) took alot of abuse during the 2nd great war.