Building and painting was a hoot, with only the bad fit of the superstructure to lower hull a distraction. The build progress can be followed here .
And some 'contempary' shots....
Cheers
Henk
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Panzerwerfer 42 finished..
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:56 AM UTC
Well, here she is, the ADV Azimut all resin and brass Panzerwerfer 42.
Building and painting was a hoot, with only the bad fit of the superstructure to lower hull a distraction. The build progress can be followed here .
And some 'contempary' shots....
Cheers
Henk
Building and painting was a hoot, with only the bad fit of the superstructure to lower hull a distraction. The build progress can be followed here .
And some 'contempary' shots....
Cheers
Henk
Hwa-Rang
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:10 AM UTC
Awesome piece of work Henk. The added red-brown squigels really improved the camo.
Are you gonna put it in a dio?
Are you gonna put it in a dio?
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:16 AM UTC
Thanks Jesper,
Yes, It's going in a small diorama, some trees on one side, with the crew busy reloading. That's why I only loaded 6 of the barrels.
I'm glad I went for the added Red-Brown squigels, they really have 'lifted' the camo.
Cheers
Henk
Yes, It's going in a small diorama, some trees on one side, with the crew busy reloading. That's why I only loaded 6 of the barrels.
I'm glad I went for the added Red-Brown squigels, they really have 'lifted' the camo.
Cheers
Henk
Vadster
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:40 AM UTC
Henk,
I am glad you went ahead and added in the brown to the camo scheme. That really sealed the deal for the model's overall appearance.
I am glad you went ahead and added in the brown to the camo scheme. That really sealed the deal for the model's overall appearance.
Hawkeye
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 04:19 AM UTC
Most excellent Henk, the camo really does justice to the excellent construction you did, well done 
Regards from the Swamp
Hawkeye
Regards from the Swamp
Hawkeye
rfeehan
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 04:55 AM UTC
Nice work! It turned out great.
rbeebe99
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 05:28 AM UTC
Nice Job Henk,
The additional camo colors really do add a lot to the completed model. Look forward to seeing it in the dio.
regards,
Robert
The additional camo colors really do add a lot to the completed model. Look forward to seeing it in the dio.
regards,
Robert
Sticky
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 05:54 AM UTC
Super nice Henk. I have only one food for thought comment and a question. First the question.
Do these things blow alot of smoke from the back end of the rocket when fired?
Now the comment. If the response to the above is yes, do you think it would discolor the paint, or even leave brown or black marks on the finish after being fired?
What do you think?
Do these things blow alot of smoke from the back end of the rocket when fired?
Now the comment. If the response to the above is yes, do you think it would discolor the paint, or even leave brown or black marks on the finish after being fired?
What do you think?
Simon
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 06:09 AM UTC
Beautiful. Very well made indeed. Like the "contemporary" shots.
Good work
Simon
Good work
Simon
Slug
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 06:23 AM UTC
Henk you made the right (if somewhat risky decission) to add the brown. It really gives some depth to the camo, excellent!
Sticky stole my question about residue/discoloured paint left behind , although I couldn't find any decent photos, one would think that there would be some kind of telltale sign that these rockets have been fired, just a thought
Anyway great looking model, this will be taking centre stage on the "model mantel" far awhile, all that much more appreciated seeing the step by step progress .
keep dem pics coming
regards
Bruce
Sticky stole my question about residue/discoloured paint left behind , although I couldn't find any decent photos, one would think that there would be some kind of telltale sign that these rockets have been fired, just a thought
Anyway great looking model, this will be taking centre stage on the "model mantel" far awhile, all that much more appreciated seeing the step by step progress .
keep dem pics coming
regards
Bruce
Ripster
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 06:30 AM UTC
Very nice rendition of an unusual/rare vehicle. I agree with the other posters that it needed the red brown in the camo. Rocket launcher in particular looks great - good work!
Neo
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 07:23 AM UTC
Henk
Very nice, camo looks great. Looking forward to seeing this in a dio.
I got the Italeri version few weeks ago and I will be very happy if it tuns out half as good as yours.
Cheers
N E O
Very nice, camo looks great. Looking forward to seeing this in a dio.
I got the Italeri version few weeks ago and I will be very happy if it tuns out half as good as yours.
Cheers
N E O
jackhammer81
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 07:24 AM UTC
Henk, you have done an outstanding job on this. I love the camo and look forward to seeing this placed in a dio. I have to agree with Sticky though. I believe the rickets these fired created a great deal of smoke and soot. I think you should add some soot and possibly discolor the paint around the rocket launcher. Again my two cents so take it as that. Great job other wise. Cheers Kevin
043
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 07:28 AM UTC
Nice work henk
Greetz Eric
Are you still panzer IV minded??
Greetz Eric
Are you still panzer IV minded??
Anthony14
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 07:34 AM UTC
Great job! I like the camo.
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:13 PM UTC
Thank you all for your appreciation, I'm glad you like it.
John, Bruce and Sticky, I pondered the same question, and have spend a great deal of time examining the photo's which I managed to find. There is one were a rocket has just left the barrel, and it looks like one hell of a tail flame..
But then again, I can't really find a picture which conclusivly shows a large amount of deposit or damaged paint.. 
. I think I'll take some educated licence, and once it goesin the dio, I'll add just a light dusting of black pastels, as you would expect some deposit. I will do all the final weathering then, as I feel that any pastels added now will probably rub of again during handeling. I also have not quite made up my mind as to if the Werfer will be sat on a sand path, or a forrest floor.. it will be with some trees in the back ground, just playing with the undergrowth..
And yes Eric, I'm still very much a Pzr IV fan.. I'm waiting for SWMBO to turn her back long enough to order one of those new Pzr IV Ausf D 's...
Cheers
Henk
John, Bruce and Sticky, I pondered the same question, and have spend a great deal of time examining the photo's which I managed to find. There is one were a rocket has just left the barrel, and it looks like one hell of a tail flame..
But then again, I can't really find a picture which conclusivly shows a large amount of deposit or damaged paint.. . I think I'll take some educated licence, and once it goesin the dio, I'll add just a light dusting of black pastels, as you would expect some deposit. I will do all the final weathering then, as I feel that any pastels added now will probably rub of again during handeling. I also have not quite made up my mind as to if the Werfer will be sat on a sand path, or a forrest floor.. it will be with some trees in the back ground, just playing with the undergrowth..And yes Eric, I'm still very much a Pzr IV fan.. I'm waiting for SWMBO to turn her back long enough to order one of those new Pzr IV Ausf D 's...
Cheers
Henk
Hohenstaufen
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2005 - 08:27 PM UTC
This really is an excellent job, I've been following this build & am aware that this was not an easy kit to build. I wish I could achieve those fine lines with my airbrush, they do look very authentic.
Be careful with the soot. None of the photos I've seen show any evidence either, even shots taken from the rear. This would seem to fly in the face of logic, because I've got the old Almarks title on German rocket equipment & the backblast & smoke trails from these things are awesome. However I think the rockets were usually fired @ 90 degrees to the axis of the vehicle (ie not forwards) so maybe this is the explanation.
Be careful with the soot. None of the photos I've seen show any evidence either, even shots taken from the rear. This would seem to fly in the face of logic, because I've got the old Almarks title on German rocket equipment & the backblast & smoke trails from these things are awesome. However I think the rockets were usually fired @ 90 degrees to the axis of the vehicle (ie not forwards) so maybe this is the explanation.
Henk
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Posted: Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 12:06 PM UTC
Cheers Steve,
I know, I have been trying to find other pic's of the Werfer, problem is that most existing pic's are staged propaganda photo's, with immaculate crew and equipment.. The few 'in action' pic's that I found don't really show any soot etc, but it's likely that some would have been left around the end of the tubes etc. I'll go lightly on it though.
I enjoyed this a lot, and the fit problems have not put me of at all, quite the opposite...I just bought a SdKfz 250/9 from Azimut on Ebay... .
As an aside, I just noticed that the build thread I posted has had over 1040 hits! Now I did hope that some people might be interested, but over a thousend hits..
.
I'll have to build some more odd machines I think.
Cheers
Henk
I know, I have been trying to find other pic's of the Werfer, problem is that most existing pic's are staged propaganda photo's, with immaculate crew and equipment.. The few 'in action' pic's that I found don't really show any soot etc, but it's likely that some would have been left around the end of the tubes etc. I'll go lightly on it though.
I enjoyed this a lot, and the fit problems have not put me of at all, quite the opposite...I just bought a SdKfz 250/9 from Azimut on Ebay...
. As an aside, I just noticed that the build thread I posted has had over 1040 hits! Now I did hope that some people might be interested, but over a thousend hits..
.I'll have to build some more odd machines I think.
Cheers
Henk
stronniel
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Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 05:49 AM UTC
She is a beauty. Was this kit hard to find? I was doing some light digging around the internet. I know Italeri makes one that is easier to get. Does anyone have any idea how that kit is? If I get it, I know where to look for inspiration. I can only hope that my attempt would come close to this. Good work.
Jason
I can only hope that my attempt would come close to this. Good work.Jason
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 02:50 PM UTC
Thanks Jason,
I ran into this kit 'by chance', when somebody mentioned on Armorama that he was selling some kits. I had a look on his ebay page, and liked the look of the box... . I have not seen the Italeri kit, but have seen some finished ones on the net, as with most Italeri kits, it is probably a bit basic but seems to build into a nice kit, Verlinden had (has?) a detail kit for the interior and there are some other manufacturers who produce AM bits for the exterior. I believe that the tracks in the Azimut kit are the Italeri rubberband ones, which you should replace... I used MB indy links, which are a doddle to work with, and which look much better. And are a lot cheaper than Fruils or MK...
Oh, on the subject of Italeri and AM sets, I believe that the Italeri kit will build up very nice on it's own, as a 'closed up' version, i.e. without any of the interior showing. To be honest, you can't see much of your hard work on the cabin, as the view inside is rather restricted. And most pictures show that the doors and hatches were kept closed most of the time anyway, just imagine the blast of those ten rockets going straight into the interior.. .. where some more rockets would be stored in the ready racks.. .
As with all kits, if you like the model, just go for it...
BTW, I'm not sure why the first two pics come up with red xx's, but there are more pic's in my gallery.
quote- I can only hope that my attempt would come close to this. -quote
We only learn by 'attempting'...start easy, take your time, and when needed, just jump in feet first... you don't know if you can swim untill you've jumped in the water...
Cheers
Henk
I ran into this kit 'by chance', when somebody mentioned on Armorama that he was selling some kits. I had a look on his ebay page, and liked the look of the box...
. I have not seen the Italeri kit, but have seen some finished ones on the net, as with most Italeri kits, it is probably a bit basic but seems to build into a nice kit, Verlinden had (has?) a detail kit for the interior and there are some other manufacturers who produce AM bits for the exterior. I believe that the tracks in the Azimut kit are the Italeri rubberband ones, which you should replace... I used MB indy links, which are a doddle to work with, and which look much better. And are a lot cheaper than Fruils or MK...Oh, on the subject of Italeri and AM sets, I believe that the Italeri kit will build up very nice on it's own, as a 'closed up' version, i.e. without any of the interior showing. To be honest, you can't see much of your hard work on the cabin, as the view inside is rather restricted. And most pictures show that the doors and hatches were kept closed most of the time anyway, just imagine the blast of those ten rockets going straight into the interior..
.. where some more rockets would be stored in the ready racks.. .As with all kits, if you like the model, just go for it...
BTW, I'm not sure why the first two pics come up with red xx's, but there are more pic's in my gallery.
quote- I can only hope that my attempt would come close to this. -quote
We only learn by 'attempting'...start easy, take your time, and when needed, just jump in feet first... you don't know if you can swim untill you've jumped in the water...
Cheers
Henk
stronniel
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:43 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks Jason,
I ran into this kit 'by chance', when somebody mentioned on Armorama that he was selling some kits. I had a look on his ebay page, and liked the look of the box...
Oh, on the subject of Italeri and AM sets, I believe that the Italeri kit will build up very nice on it's own, as a 'closed up' version, i.e. without any of the interior showing. To be honest, you can't see much of your hard work on the cabin, as the view inside is rather restricted. And most pictures show that the doors and hatches were kept closed most of the time anyway, just imagine the blast of those ten rockets going straight into the interior..
As with all kits, if you like the model, just go for it...
BTW, I'm not sure why the first two pics come up with red xx's, but there are more pic's in my gallery.
quote- I can only hope that my attempt would come close to this. -quote
We only learn by 'attempting'...start easy, take your time, and when needed, just jump in feet first... you don't know if you can swim untill you've jumped in the water...
Cheers
Henk
Thanks for the info Henk. I ended up getting the Italeri kit today. I started to dig around for AM stuff for it. Thanks for the reccomendation on the tracks. I will have to do some more digging to see what the flaws are with the Italeri, if any. If you came across any more info, feel free to let me know. I can always use more information.
Thanks again,
Jason
Henk
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2005 - 05:57 AM UTC
For a start, have a look here for inspiration (oops, it takes you to the homepage. On the left, click on German WWII, then on Halftracks, then on Skfzg 4 Maultier). this is a photo of the Verlinden Interior update set. Don't know if it's still in production..
And this artikel gives a lot of good background info.
Cheers
Henk
And this artikel gives a lot of good background info.
Cheers
Henk
Biggles2
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 03:17 PM UTC
There are 3 pages of pics showing PzWerfer 42''s loading and firing in 'Panzers in the East (2)', by Concord, ppg. 27 - 29. If the launcher is fired forward, over the cab, the blast is directed over the end of the vehicle and there is no residue on the vehicle. However, it appears that most launches were backwards, ie. the rear of the vehicle was pointed towards the enemy so that after the last round was fired, the vehicle could make an immediate withdrawal back to cover or deeper behind their own lines to either retreat or reload. When the rockets were fired in this fashion, there was obvious blast streaks on the loading doors, back of the cab, and the sides. Of course the direction of the blast streaks follow the angle of the rocket's launch. If the rockets are fired to either side of the vehicle, heavy streaking occurs down the opposite side.
Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 03:31 PM UTC
Hi Biggels, thanks for your additional info on the mystery of the black marks. Unfortunatly I don't have that book, but I will try to get my hands on a copy.
Are there any photo's in there that show the barrels pointing straight back? Because all the info I have found, and all the pics seem to support this, states that the barrels only turned through 270 degrees. I.e. not completely around. I am under the impression that the barrels could not be turned as far round as for the back blast to be directed directly to the front of the vehicle, which makes sense as that would fry the cabin.. And it would put a lot of heat on the access hatches on the hull top ( directely in front of the barrels) underneath which a number of spare rockets are carried..
You are correct about the ' fire and scarper' tactic, the maximum range of these rockets was no more than about 6 km's, and the blast and smoke trail gave the position away immediatly.
Cheers
Henk
I have just fixed the red xx's in the first post.
Are there any photo's in there that show the barrels pointing straight back? Because all the info I have found, and all the pics seem to support this, states that the barrels only turned through 270 degrees. I.e. not completely around. I am under the impression that the barrels could not be turned as far round as for the back blast to be directed directly to the front of the vehicle, which makes sense as that would fry the cabin..
And it would put a lot of heat on the access hatches on the hull top ( directely in front of the barrels) underneath which a number of spare rockets are carried..You are correct about the ' fire and scarper' tactic, the maximum range of these rockets was no more than about 6 km's, and the blast and smoke trail gave the position away immediatly.
Cheers
Henk
I have just fixed the red xx's in the first post.
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 03:29 PM UTC
Among the pics I mentioned is one of a series which has either been taken on high speed film, or is a frame from movie film. It shows the rocket in flight just after leaving the launcher tube. The laucher is aimed at about 45* over the rear of the vehicle. Most of the pics have the launcher aimed towards the rear - makes sense as it is the easiest way to reload, but the rest of the pics show the launcher aimed forwards, and to either side. Apparantly the launcher was capable of 360* movement. Maybe the rear wall of the cab was lined with asbestos or something. The blast obviously didn't fry the crew. More likely the heat was negligeable and didn't penetrate the armor as the stored rounds in the back of the vehicle didn't 'cook off' (hopefully) during firing.
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