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Painting future onto model?
WakeofDemons
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 07:36 AM UTC
Is this advisable? Or how should I attempt on coating my model with future? I don't have a airbrush....
Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 08:15 AM UTC
You have a couple options here.
1) Don't use it.OK to wash if last paint application at least 3 days old.Doesn't matter what media you used.(huge discussions on this).
2)OK to brush on if you do it in a timely fashion.Instructions state 20 minute dry time.Working time probably 6-8 minutes.It is self-leveling,meaning it will flow well and seek the lowest level like water does.
3)Spritz it on with a spray bottle and then work it around the surfaces with a large,soft,round brush.
Note: In any event,Test these methods on a junk build to see what works for you best.(this is good advice for any tip/trick you come across.)
cheers!Model On!
1) Don't use it.OK to wash if last paint application at least 3 days old.Doesn't matter what media you used.(huge discussions on this).
2)OK to brush on if you do it in a timely fashion.Instructions state 20 minute dry time.Working time probably 6-8 minutes.It is self-leveling,meaning it will flow well and seek the lowest level like water does.
3)Spritz it on with a spray bottle and then work it around the surfaces with a large,soft,round brush.
Note: In any event,Test these methods on a junk build to see what works for you best.(this is good advice for any tip/trick you come across.)
cheers!Model On!
mpalao
Madrid, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 08:32 AM UTC
Hi, what this the employing to fututre paint? It is the to matt falt to the model?
Thanks
Thanks
WakeofDemons
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 09:53 AM UTC
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Hi, what this the employing to fututre paint? It is the to matt falt to the model?
Thanks
If from what I understand you wrote, "does future give it a matt finish?" ...if that is what you asked, then no, it gives it a shiny coat... you have to apply a dullcoat after.
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ah, i'd like to know as much as you. I finally found a store that carried future. There have been several conversations on future however that was a while ago, and i am also using a brush.
lol... I found it at Walmart, in the cleaning products area........................ heh, you don't have a airbrush either!...........man wouldn't I like one.... faster to paint models with.... with using brush, you have to paint the model in pieces, because the paintbrush wont go into every area easily!
Mojo
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 10:44 AM UTC
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Future
Have a look at this link... Its a really good article on the uses for Future.. If you read down, the author says if you add Tamyia's base to the Future in varying amounts, it will give you a flat finish.. Be advised, I havent tried it yet.. If you do, give it a go on a old piece of plastic you have kicking around... Hope this helps
Dave
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Hi, what this the employing to fututre paint? It is the to matt falt to the model?
Thanks
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If from what I understand you wrote, "does future give it a matt finish?" ...if that is what you asked, then no, it gives it a shiny coat... you have to apply a dullcoat after.
Future
Have a look at this link... Its a really good article on the uses for Future.. If you read down, the author says if you add Tamyia's base to the Future in varying amounts, it will give you a flat finish.. Be advised, I havent tried it yet.. If you do, give it a go on a old piece of plastic you have kicking around... Hope this helps
Dave
Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 05:48 AM UTC
Thanks Dave!Super article.Very comprehensive.The big version of what I have been trying to tell. .
Cheers!
Cheers!
bison44
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 06:35 AM UTC
Hey Wake
Future does dry very fast..so you have to work fast, but watch out for creating bubbles or froth as you go over panels lines or raised details (brush gaurds etc) on the model. Go slow enough with a fairly large brush and try and get even coverage. You aren't going to get as even or perfect a coat as an airbrush but I assume you are handpainting the model as well right? So no worries!! I put it on full strength straight out of the bottle. Once you get your decals on or your wash and a few coats of dullcoat (from a rattle can) its hard to even tell the future was even there.
Future does dry very fast..so you have to work fast, but watch out for creating bubbles or froth as you go over panels lines or raised details (brush gaurds etc) on the model. Go slow enough with a fairly large brush and try and get even coverage. You aren't going to get as even or perfect a coat as an airbrush but I assume you are handpainting the model as well right? So no worries!! I put it on full strength straight out of the bottle. Once you get your decals on or your wash and a few coats of dullcoat (from a rattle can) its hard to even tell the future was even there.
Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 07:25 AM UTC
Hi Alexander, I'm guessing that you model "Targets" but my article on brush painting Klear (Future) might be useful, even though I model Aircraft.
The Future is Klear.
Mal
The Future is Klear.
Mal
mpalao
Madrid, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 09:42 AM UTC
Hi ! and then is better to apply with Airbrushing method? The reason is for the fast time to dry it?
Thanks
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ellevehc86
Michigan, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 06:48 AM UTC
Personally, I hate using future floor wax. In my search for "The perfect easy wash" I tried using future floor wax, and tried using it in a number of different ways. One way I tried, was to apply it using a rag straight from the bottle. This resulted in the wax cracking, and even when i tried to wash over it, I found it still did'nt hold up to a wash. I tried applying it with an airbrush. When and I tried that it was far too runny to spray, and ran all over my model. In the end I read an article in this forum about using testor's clear cote, then a wash.
So I tried this and found when I apply 2 coats of the clear and let it dry for a day or two. It held up perfect for a wash. Also when applying decals, the clear coat really gives it a flat surface to work on. After finishing up, I apply 2 coats of dull coat. You can bolth paints in small bottles, or a spray can.
Happy modeling,
Jay
So I tried this and found when I apply 2 coats of the clear and let it dry for a day or two. It held up perfect for a wash. Also when applying decals, the clear coat really gives it a flat surface to work on. After finishing up, I apply 2 coats of dull coat. You can bolth paints in small bottles, or a spray can.
Happy modeling,
Jay