Guys, I want to do a nazi flag, those used for air recognition, to put on a 1/72 Sdkfz 222... I read an article somewhere about making them but I seem to have lost the link : Could you guys please give me some input about how should I try to make such thing? I was told about printing an image on paper, sealing it with microscale setting solution the using white glue to cover up the surface of the vehicle with the flag but the setting solution just blured everything...
Thanks in advance and happy modelling!
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Francisco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 09:15 AM UTC
Max_Fischer
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 09:31 AM UTC
Your best bet and a good idea is,
Getting some white cloth, and just masking it,
It lays flat like a real flag, Tecnicaly it is a real flag :-)
Getting some white cloth, and just masking it,
It lays flat like a real flag, Tecnicaly it is a real flag :-)
Thom
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:05 AM UTC
Yeah, i'm aksing myself how...
If you have a cloth, how do u make the fitting colour?
If you have a cloth, how do u make the fitting colour?
resistor
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:04 AM UTC
I used flags from Archer, the dry transfer kind. You transfer the flags onto aluminum foil and then shape them. Worked pretty well for me. I dont think any of them are small enough for 1/72 scale, but I'll check when i get home tonight and send you one if it looks like they'll work...hit me up on the PM
oh yeah, heres what mine looks like:
oh yeah, heres what mine looks like:
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 03:29 PM UTC
Whoa! You used setting solution! NO, NO, NO! I said Microscale's decal saver/ decal film! Different stuff altogether! Setting solution is ultimately a solvent, the decal film/saver is a thicker product in the same style bottle that is used to coat old decals or make custom ones.
Start over and print your flag at the highest resolution you can and let it sit for an hour or more to let the inks dry completely. . Get a bottle of saver/film at your LHS. You can apply a pretty generous coat and it will dry clear and without brush strokes. Let this dry at least half an hour. Cut it out and apply a coat of diluted white glue to the back and let this soak in for a few minute while the paper softens. Carefully lay it over the area you want , press it down to simulate gravity or furl it to represent the effects of wind, and let the glue dry. When it's set, you'll have a nice flag that looks like the real thing in scale.
You can use the excess film/saver on old decals before you soak them to prevent their breaking apart.
Start over and print your flag at the highest resolution you can and let it sit for an hour or more to let the inks dry completely. . Get a bottle of saver/film at your LHS. You can apply a pretty generous coat and it will dry clear and without brush strokes. Let this dry at least half an hour. Cut it out and apply a coat of diluted white glue to the back and let this soak in for a few minute while the paper softens. Carefully lay it over the area you want , press it down to simulate gravity or furl it to represent the effects of wind, and let the glue dry. When it's set, you'll have a nice flag that looks like the real thing in scale.
You can use the excess film/saver on old decals before you soak them to prevent their breaking apart.
lordQ
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:43 PM UTC
hi
When i make my flags i use Toilet paper...no that ain't funny. Use some white glue 50/50 water and put it on the vehicle.Shape it like you want. when dry mask the rest of the vehicle and paint the thing red. Draw a circel on some scrap paper or whatever and cut it out, lay it on the allready red "flag" and paint white. For the swastika i would use a computer print-out. At hom i use a laserprinter,inkjets aren't good...they blur in comnination with water or any kind of solvent. i print it one some very light paper and repeat the white-glue thing.now you have a nice flag, seal it with some clear varnish and you're ready to go. Remember to test on a scrap piece to test this technique.
cheerz Q.
When i make my flags i use Toilet paper...no that ain't funny. Use some white glue 50/50 water and put it on the vehicle.Shape it like you want. when dry mask the rest of the vehicle and paint the thing red. Draw a circel on some scrap paper or whatever and cut it out, lay it on the allready red "flag" and paint white. For the swastika i would use a computer print-out. At hom i use a laserprinter,inkjets aren't good...they blur in comnination with water or any kind of solvent. i print it one some very light paper and repeat the white-glue thing.now you have a nice flag, seal it with some clear varnish and you're ready to go. Remember to test on a scrap piece to test this technique.
cheerz Q.
Francisco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:28 PM UTC
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Whoa! You used setting solution! NO, NO, NO! I said Microscale's decal saver
Doh!! I must have figured it out wrong while I was taking notes! Sorry but thanks again for the explanation!
Thank you all for your tips, they ound great and I should give them all a try!
One last question though: Was there a specific size to these kind of flags?
Art
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Posted: Friday, July 08, 2005 - 01:23 AM UTC
Facial tissue draped on the vehicle, treated with white glue/water. After it's dried and painted, stick a decal in the middle.
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Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 03:41 PM UTC
If you have a scanner, scan some commercially available flags. You can scale them to an appropriate size later. Then print them onto white wrapping tissue paper ( it's thin yet strong). Artist's tracing paper will also work well. The tissue paper probably won't pass through the printer well by itself, so you have to tape it securely on all sides to a sheet of regular printing paper. After it's dry, you can use whatever treatment you want to conform to shape, etc.
mondo
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Posted: Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 08:51 PM UTC
There is a paper company called Apli. They make those T-shirt transfers that you print in you inkjet and iron it over the t-shirt.
Try printing the flags and use the thinnest cloth. I use silk.
I've used this a number of times.
Try printing the flags and use the thinnest cloth. I use silk.
I've used this a number of times.
Francisco
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Posted: Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 01:23 AM UTC
Well I decided to use the tissue paper method here are the results: