AFV Painting & Weathering
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
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Badger 200
Easy_Co
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: September 11, 2002
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2005 - 11:11 PM UTC
Hi guys Just got myself a badger 200 any one got one of these could possibly fill me in on the pro's and cons.
smithery
Ontario, Canada
Joined: March 30, 2004
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Posted: Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 07:27 AM UTC
Which model of 200 did you get John?
Prior to getting a dual action 150, I was using the general purpose 200NH for the last couple of years. Great brush. Single action, internal miz, siphon feed.
Pros: very easy to use, easy to clean, robust
Cons: Not great for spraying fine lines (less than 1/8" wide), only airflow control is your compressor.
Even after getting the 150, the 200NH still gets a lot of use. Overall spray with the 200, then go back and pick out details with the 150.
Prior to getting a dual action 150, I was using the general purpose 200NH for the last couple of years. Great brush. Single action, internal miz, siphon feed.
Pros: very easy to use, easy to clean, robust
Cons: Not great for spraying fine lines (less than 1/8" wide), only airflow control is your compressor.
Even after getting the 150, the 200NH still gets a lot of use. Overall spray with the 200, then go back and pick out details with the 150.
Easy_Co
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: September 11, 2002
KitMaker: 1,933 posts
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Joined: September 11, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 09:23 PM UTC
Hi Kevin I think its the basic model siphon feed internal mix they say on the box it will spray to 1/16th they may have changed it since you got yours, reason I baught it was my Paacce C.C. kept blocking up I cleaned it religously but every time i loaded up enamels I had to mix it more thinner than paint and it still played up and I wasnt getting the finish i required.i was spraying my M.10 tracks the other day the only way I could get any paint out of it was to press the trigger then at the same time turn the paint flow nut back and forth that was an interesting exercise. could you tell me how much paint you need to put in those siphon bottles as ive only used the small metal cups before, say the amount to base paint a M.10. thanks for your help.
smithery
Ontario, Canada
Joined: March 30, 2004
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 11:20 PM UTC
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Hi Kevin I think its the basic model siphon feed internal mix they say on the box it will spray to 1/16th they may have changed it since you got yours. could you tell me how much paint you need to put in those siphon bottles as ive only used the small metal cups before, say the amount to base paint a M.10. thanks for your help.
Certainly sounds like to 200NH to me. The box on mine said it would spray down to 1/16 as well.........not very good at it, but it will do it. :-) Just kidding.....through experience, I found that it would spray fine lines if the paint was thinned heavily, low pressure, and freshly cleaned tip and needle
As for using the siphon bottles, I really only use them if I'm spraying a lot of one color, and for primer, since I prime everything, and use the same brand and color. I generally use a color cup. You can buy them as accessories. Generally though, I'll dump an entire tin of Humbrol into the bottle, then add my thinner accordingly. Personally, I use 50/50 as my ratio of paint to thinner, and I use lacquer (cellulose) thinner . Your mileage may vary.
One downside of the siphon feed is that as the bottle gets empty, it can be difficult to draw paint if the bottle is tilted. Not an issue if you have a spraybooth, and can spray without tilting the brush. If you're like me and have but one bench, you may want to consider getting a flexible extension to the siphon tube. I use rubber hose. I've cut my siphon tube about 1/2" from the cap, and just slide the rubber tube onto the remainder. The flexible rubber allows the tube to get into the "pool" of paint once the bottle is sitting at an angle. Makes cleaning easy as well, as the rubber tube is disposable, and the siphon cap can be cleaned out with a swift wipe with a pipe cleaner dipper in thinner.
Biggest downside to the bottles is cost, especially if you're using a bottle for every color in your arsenal.
Like I said before I got really verbose (sorry....bad habit I'm trying to break), you may want to invest in a color cup, especially since you're used to using one. Should only cost you a couple of quid.
Cheers,
Kevin