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How to use Alclad??
HILBERT
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 03:14 AM UTC
Hi,

I bought today a bottle Alclad, Chrome..

It says I have to paint the plastic with shiny black. It says I should use enamel paint, but will work acryl also??
Then it says that I have to polish the primer.. is that really nessecery?

Thanks in advance!

shonen_red
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 04:05 AM UTC
Try this link
http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/tnt1/001-100/TNT009_Alclad/TNT009.htm
smithery
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 04:15 AM UTC
Hilbert, Chrome is one of two Alclad shades (Highly Polished Aluminum being the other) that is a bit picky.

In short, yes, you must use gloss black enamel paint as a primer, and yes, it should be polished so that it is perfectly smooth. Acrylic paint will not give the high sheen results of a true chrome.

Just as a warning, Chrome is one of the shades that will show any and every flaw in the surface, so make sure you're ready to spray it.

The paint may sound like it's more effort than it's worth, but with a little preparation, you'll be able to use the finish as a mirror.
HILBERT
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 05:22 AM UTC
Thanks for the reply's.
But with what should I would I polish it???
Just fine Sandpaper?

I also read in the link from Shonen_red that you can use carprimer, is that not to coarse???

smithery
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 07:31 AM UTC
You can start with fine sandpaper, and work through the grits. Micromesh is also good. I finally end up using a soft cotton cloth to bring up the sheen prior to shooting the chrome.

Car primer is OK for the other shades, but not chrome. That was the purpose of the asterisk in the statement. For chrome, you can only use gloss black enamel or Alclad's own gloss black base. I prefer to use MM Classic Black when priming for chrome.

It may also help to know what you plan to use the chrome paint on.....automotive or aircraft subject?
HILBERT
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 08:03 AM UTC
it is for my drumkit. for the standards and rings. and small stuff.
so it has be very bling bling.

Can you explain step by step how you use this chrome??
it would help a lot, this is my first chrome experience, and I prefer that it is bling bling..

Thanks!

smithery
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 08:40 AM UTC
Interesting project.....if you're talking a 1:1 drum kit, you're going to need A LOT of paint.

The key to working with Alclad Chrome is in the prep work.

1) Prior to shooting primer, take every effort to take care of seams and joints. Any flaw in the surface will be show up quite obviously once you've applied the chrome paint.

2) Prime with gloss black enamel or laquer based paint.

3) Once dry, start sanding with very fine sandpaper, and work your way through various grits until the finish is as smooth as glass (or better)

4) Using very light mist coats, apply the chrome paint. Make sure youo spray light coats and build it up. Too heavy a coat will look like arse, and ruin all that prep work.

Chrome paint does not have to be buffed, but it can be to a point. The finish is more fragile than the other shades, but if you're gentle, you won't mar the finish. Care must be taken, as you cannot seal the paint at all, or the finish will dull greatly.

Good luck.
HILBERT
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 11:02 AM UTC
Thanks for the reply, it's really helpfull thanks.

Hehe no i'm not building a 1:1 drumkit, i'm building the 1:8 drumkit form Academy.

HILBERT
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:34 AM UTC
Hoi it's me again..

What is cellulose thinners?? for example?? is it like spiritus??

thanks
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