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My first diorama
MickeMustang
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Västra Götaland, Sweden
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 09:16 PM UTC
So, here it is my first attempt with a diorama and first diorama photo using a lot of the advice posted on the site. This hobby sure is complex you have to build t and weather the model, build a convincing diorama with a natural setting. Then you have to be a good photographer knowing stuff about lighting and how to get the focus right. And if that wasn’t hard enough you then should master Photoshop or some other software to get it absolutely right.
Anyway, I’m a beginner in all fields so I would appreciate some feedback on my work.

Micke

Forgot one thing, you also need to know how to up-load photos, lets see if it works...



fanai
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 09:25 PM UTC
Thanks for posting your first dio- you bit a lot of and I a very proud of what you have achieve for a 'first' . Mikael always try to have your piece not in staight lines to edge of base -(like your BMW) you have a nice litle story going and I like how you have presented the piece- shore it is not going to win gold at Euro militaire but everyone there started somewhere and you are on the right track
Ian
( brings back memories my first diorama was that very BMW sidecar but not as well painted as yours)
russ
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 09:29 PM UTC
Great dio and for a first attempt that is exellent Mikael.

SgtCortez
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 09:36 PM UTC
Gongratulations from your neighbour country, Micke!

Your diorama looks really good, and i like those bushes and rocks. Are those bushes made of lichen?

Like the paintwork with that flakpanzer, and those figures are painted well too.

Jag försök talar svenska, och försöket slog mycket väl ut!

-Cortez
EasyOff
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Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 10:56 PM UTC
Wow, I gotta tell ya, the only thing that dissapoints me is there wasn't any more pics to look at. I found myself wanting more. I think you did an amazing job in photoshop. I raise my glass in a toast to your first dio, may you have many more and may each one make you a little more happier than the first.
slodder
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 12:40 AM UTC
You did your homework that's for sure. You did a lot of research and put all that hard work to good use. For your first diorama this is Very good. Lots of detail, no parallel lines, good solid painting techniques, good weathering, nicely built very neat. Good story line.

A couple of pointers I can offer would be to watch the amount of open space. I think this one is ok, it's right on the edge of too open, you do fill the space with ground work etc. so it's just something to think about. The barrells on the AA gun aren't square and parallel. The space between the CO and the motorcycle is a bit of a to large, the sence of the scene is relaxed and I would expect the driver to drive right up or the CO would walk over so they wouldn't have to shout to communicate.

Keep up the good work.
Sticky
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 01:01 AM UTC
Well now, this is a surprise! What an excellant first effort! I will be expecting great things from you I think. A couple of pointers. On the bushes, next time spray them with a 50/50 mix of white glue and water, then shake them in a bag of parsley. After they set paint them a dark green, then drybrush with a lighter green. You also may want to try Heki or silflor for grass, it is much more realistic in color and texture, as well as it comes in different heights.

Looks Great!
MickeMustang
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 02:25 AM UTC
Thanks for all the feedback!

Things I never thought about but now that you mention it I can see it too. This is the way to learn and get better. I'm working on a P-51 Mustang at the moment let's see if I can use your advice when the time comes to make a diorama. Again, thanks for your input.

Micke
KFMagee
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 05:46 AM UTC
Nice work... I'd like to see the finished piece without the background as well, along with some closeup photos of the peices.... the cycle with side car looks especially well done.
umustb
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 02:22 PM UTC
Looking good for your first Diorama Mikael..
The photos taken with the background, simply awesome. Just one thing though, the tracks have mud on them, but the surroundings looked rather dry. Even if it did dig up the ground, I believe it should be dust. Correct me if i'm wrong guys..
Probuilder
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 03:45 PM UTC
Very nice 1st effort! Very nice indeed!!
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 04:19 PM UTC
Overall loks really god. The pointers the other guys gave you are very good. Let me add a couple of my own.
The tracks in the ground looks too dark. Yes, these things are heavy, but everything suggests a relatively dry setting. The tracks left behind, especially on the road surface should be much more subtle. The driver isn't doing burnouts at P{omona International Speedway, he's moving his vehicle strategically to it's best advantage. A trail like that is an invitation for a Typhoon or Thunderbolt.
Second, the muffler. Exhausts are very hot. Paint doen't like very hot. This would look better, IMHO, if the exhaust system were more a base of MM Metalizer burnt iron with rusty highlights, especially since you have some really nice exhaust staiins.
Lastly, a little more n the way of a wash to pop hte details up a bit more.
All that said, this is a very nice piece of workThings flow together well and the story is internally consistent in all aspects.
tankysgal1
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 07:10 PM UTC
Excellent work for your first diorama. I think you have done a very good job. Most of the nit-pics have already been covered. I would like to see a few more pics that show a little more detail in your work. Close up pics. Great Job.. (++)
MickeMustang
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 01:49 AM UTC
I see what you mean with the mud and the muffler and I guess it is the small details that make it convincing. What I guess I did wrong was to just build the diorama, I should have given more thought to the setting and planned it a bit more carefully.
How do you start a diorama? Do you start with the model and then figure out a way to display it or do you see a setting, landscape or situation you want to build and then find the models to fit in it? Another question I have is how do you paint the eyes of small figures like this? Mine always comes out as if they were doing drugs.
Some more close-up’s of my dio.



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