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Vietnam 105mm
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 12:18 PM UTC
What brand and model kit will work for Nam era 105mm towed howitzer.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 01:06 PM UTC
The Italeri M101A1 (same one as in the DUKW kit) and the AFV Club M102 are the only 105mm howitzers that were used in Vietnam. The AFV Club model is really nice and includes a metal barrel. It also has parts to build it as a '80s-'90s M102A1 and in airborne configuration as well.



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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 01:37 PM UTC
Thanks Gino, I have never worked with metal parts in kits is there anything I need to know about assembly such as glueing.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 01:46 PM UTC
Metal parts like PE (photo etch) or metal gun tubes require super glue (called CA or cyanacrylic). Some brands are geared towards modelers because of the viscosity available (thin, thick, gel, fast drying, gap filling). Zap-A-Gap is a popular brand but any type found in Wal-Mart will work.
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:22 AM UTC

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The Italeri M101A1...



If I may add... this kit is a really nice build for it's age.
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:40 AM UTC

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The Italeri M101A1...



If I may add... this kit is a really nice build for it's age.



I didn't put it in my post, but I agree. It builds up nicely and has some nice, fine details as well. An excellent kit for its age.
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 10:21 AM UTC
I've built both of the kits Gino mentions (they're in my gallery), and I totally agree.

Both of these kits are pretty well done, and go together very nicely. The only problem I had, was with the AVF M102 kit. The equilibrator springs they give you provide WAY too much resistance if you use all of them. I think I only used one per side, or possibly cut them down some.

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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 10:28 AM UTC

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The only problem I had, was with the AVF M102 kit. The equilibrator springs they give you provide WAY too much resistance if you use all of them. I think I only used one per side, or possibly cut them down some.

Tom



I agree on the equilibrator springs. I had forgotten about that. I only used one per side as well.
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 01:46 AM UTC

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I agree on the equilibrator springs. I had forgotten about that. I only used one per side as well.



What did you use to replace the spring at other side?

thx
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 01:50 AM UTC

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I agree on the equilibrator springs. I had forgotten about that. I only used one per side as well.



What did you use to replace the spring at other side?

thx



I didn't need to. The kit comes with 4 springs. The directions tells you to put 2 on each side. You only need 1 per side.
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 10:14 AM UTC
Good to know info, any reason why they included two per side?
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 11:03 AM UTC

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Good to know info, any reason why they included two per side?



Only reason I can think of is if you elevate to extreme high angle, you may need the extra spring on each side. At normal elevations one per side is fine.
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2005 - 08:24 AM UTC
Looking at my kit I think what I may have done is actually cut one spring (of the 4) approx. in half and used 1 1/2 springs per side. It still gives you maybe a little too much resistance for low angle usage, but doesn't make the equilbrators look "naked" at high angle.

If you're going to fix the elevation you can make it exactly the length you want without having to get a length that "works" for all elevations between "march order" and max elevation.

But for sure I found using all 4 of the kit supplied springs at 2 per side was too much.

Tom
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