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german ww2 ambush scheme questions
moJimbo
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 01:26 PM UTC
hi everyone....

hmmm...i was wondering.... was it true that the 'ambush' scheme was first used in the ardennes 1944? was it ever used in the eastern front? did the germans still use it near the end of the war, such as in march-april 1945?

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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 04:53 PM UTC
If memory serves me right, the ambush scheme went into use in September of 1944, or there abouts, and was normally applied at the factory. It was seen on tanks on pretty much all fronts until the end of the war.
Hope this helps!
moJimbo
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 05:05 PM UTC

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If memory serves me right, the ambush scheme went into use in September of 1944, or there abouts, and was normally applied at the factory. It was seen on tanks on pretty much all fronts until the end of the war.
Hope this helps!



ah, thanks for the reply ed...

....the reason is that i'm building a panther G, in retreat across france (in falaise perhaps), autumn 1944. so i was in dilemma whether to apply the ambush scheme or not... hmmm...

cheers.
thebear
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 10:28 PM UTC
HI Mojimbo...If I were you I wouldn't use an ambush scheme that early in France ...They might have seen a few during the fighting in Alsace and that part of France but not the Falaise gap..

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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2005 - 04:18 AM UTC
According to the folks at achtungpazer:

"On August 19th of 1944, OKH ordered that dark yellow (RAL 7028) was to be factory applied as the base colour with dark olive green (RAL 6003) and red brown (RAL 8017) for use in camouflage patterns. In addition, to those three main colours, small yellow, light grey or white spots were applied on green and brown areas, while small green spots were applied on dark yellow areas. This overall camouflage scheme was known as the "ambush" scheme so common on late war Panther and Tiger II tanks."
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moJimbo
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2005 - 12:57 PM UTC
thanks for the info thebear & frag.

august 19th.. that was after falaise wasn't it? can't quite remember... but ok, i'll go without the 'ambush' colours on this one.

ta.
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