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pottz88
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New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 07:21 PM UTC
Here is my finished kifv
enjoyable build to practice my weathering. I have a long way to go. I like this vehicle. Has a different look using the 113 chassis. I found it hard to find decent pics of this veh in UN colour but anyway.

I have a fitters, mortar and fist v to go so keep an eye out,
Cheer and good luck.

Silantra
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Putrajaya, Malaysia
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 07:31 PM UTC
Dan

wow....marvelous job...
the weathering, paint chipping, rust streak etc..etc were superb
IMHO, it's difficult task to weather a white vehicle, but u done it well.

Hwa-Rang
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Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 07:45 PM UTC
Awesome piece of work Dan. The paintjob and weathering of this model is outstanding.
jazza
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 07:56 PM UTC
thats one brilliant piece of work. Can you tell us what you used to simulate rust and how you got the scratches to show? Would love to learn from you.
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Ain, France
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 09:00 PM UTC
Excellent built KIFV ! I admire the weathering of this AFV.

pottz88
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New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 10:05 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments lads. Im taken aback as I have only been modelling for a short couple of years.

I aint no pro but am looking to learn.

Answer to your questions is I used the salt method to add the paint chips. Spray the base coat, dab on the salt, spray the top, dry , rub off, walla in a nutshell.

I saw this idea in a Fine Scale Modeller mag and desided to give it a go and will use it again. weathering was done with pastels and same with the rust stains. I used burnt umber.

Anyway back to the hobby knife. Cheers
The_Swede
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Jönköping, Sweden
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 10:23 PM UTC
Nice build, I'm struggeling vith the same kit myself.
The weathering thou is far to heavy done.
I have served as a UN soldier in both Lebanon and Bosnia and I have never seen a UN vehicle that rusty.
Dirt, mud and dust, yes.
Paint chipping, yes.
Rust, no. Definitely not as much as you have done.
The only UN vehicle I have seen with that much rust on it was a Swedish bandvagn 206S but it had been parked for 5-6 years outside without any maintanence.
I have images of a number of different UN vehicles and not one of those in active service show that much rust.
You vehicle looks as it has been sitting in the motor pool for five years.

/Thord
pottz88
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 10:30 PM UTC
TheSwede
Critisism is fine with me. Thats what we are here for.

As i have said I found no good pics to base this model on. If you have some great pics of lebanon or bosnia with white un veh's post them and put us to our misery.

plain white with minimal weathering did'nt suit me and what I came up with did.

Cheers mate happy modelling

:-)
EasyOff
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:00 PM UTC
All that I wanna say is, wow, I love the entire presentation. I love the photography right down to the rust. I'd swear if it wasn't for the way it was presented that the vehicle was real. I want to jump on bored and go for a ride. Is it my turn to shoot the gun yet? :-)
Sticky
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 12:14 AM UTC
Looks very nice. Any chance we can get some more pictures?
Teacher
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:09 AM UTC
Dan,
It would make a nice On-Display feature!

Vinnie
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:36 AM UTC
Ola,

I'm a WWII kit modeler but even i dunno much about modern stuff this one looks excellent to me!

:-)

Mirko
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:42 AM UTC
I've only been around a couple of UN white painted AFVs before. They had been painted white over the vehicle's normal camouflage paint scheme.

The white looked pretty good from a distance, but under closer inspection, you could see areas that were not bothered to be painted like the underside of the vehicle, behind the road wheels, etc. Areas normally out of sight or unattainable to a person painting with an airbrush.

Of course, there are probably AFVs that are manufactured in UN white.
The_Swede
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Jönköping, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 02:28 AM UTC
Here's an image of me standing behind my pbv 302 in Bosnia.

As you can see it's quite dusty, there are some paint chippings on the rear door (from a mortar round) but not a lot of rust streaks.

Here's another image of my apc but one year later.
It's not the same vehicle.

Some dirt, some paint chipping but no rust.

The thing is that vehicles in use don't get that rusty but if you leave them standing with no maintenance the start to rust.
The one exception is the tracks but the rust on the tracks are worn of in just a couple of miles.

/Thord
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 03:18 AM UTC
Hi Dan

I love the paint job , looks very very realisitic espcially the chipping and rusting , any chance of some more pics maybe of the rear deck ?

Ian
rfeehan
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 03:21 AM UTC
Well unless I am wrong it is impossible for an M113 or variant to rust anyway since they have aluminum armor...

However, I love the job you did on this kit I have one I want to build but the white paint scheme scared me off because I wasn't sure how to do it effectively. Seeing yours makes me want to dust it off and get it done. White is tough to pull off and have it look good. (I think heavy weathering is the only way to do this and yours looks good). I looked at it and took the streaks to be dirt from the rain at least they look more like dirt on my monitor than rust.

Good job.


The_Swede
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Jönköping, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 04:15 AM UTC
Yes, the M113 and variants are made of aluminum but most fittings are made of steel and therefor they can rust.

/Thord
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 05:14 AM UTC

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I have a fitters, mortar and fist v to go so keep an eye out,



Dan, that's a real beauty! I have this kit as well but just haven't gotten around to doing it as of yet. I too am a fan of anything on the M113 chassis.

When you do the mortar carrier, please send me a photo!

[url=http://www.mortarsinminiature.com/guestfiles.htm[/url]

I'm lookin' forward to seeing that!
Trisaw
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 05:47 AM UTC
Looks great!
jazza
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2005 - 05:18 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Yes, the M113 and variants are made of aluminum but most fittings are made of steel and therefor they can rust.

/Thord



Hey thanks for the photos Thord. Is there any chance you could post detailed reference photos of the M113? Ive been searching the web for it and even though there are heaps of photos on them, they really isnt any detailed photos like there are for the M1A2s for example.

Would be eternally grateful if you could either email it or post it up here.
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