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Challenger 2 in progress
Achile
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 05:16 AM UTC
Here's my Chally 2 after painting. I still have to make some washes and filters before finalizing assembly.

Comments are welcome!





oldstl1000
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Posted: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 05:23 AM UTC
Great looking tank! I like the dust effect and the color. How did you do the paint chipping? I looks real!

I would love to see it when you are done.

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Nick6570
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Posted: Friday, September 23, 2005 - 09:18 AM UTC
that looks great, are you going to leave the chip marks the same or put another coat on top of it?
woodstock74
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:29 PM UTC
Yes, what was your chip technique and what color is revealed underneath? Looks blackish, but I'm curious as to what it actually is (gunmetal, steel?)
dexter059
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:36 PM UTC
nice looking Chally there, i´m curious about the chipping too, what´s beneath the desert paint?
best regards
jazza
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:59 PM UTC
Nice looking chally. I like how you have painted the skirtings too. The washes and filters that you are about to do would certainly bring more life to the model so am looking forward to the finished product.

Which brand is the chally from? Im also curious as to why the entire barrel is painted black.
bison126
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 06:54 PM UTC
Very nice painting job Jim.

If I may, for the other posters, the colors underneath sand should be black and green according to the Europe camo pattern used by the British army. Too often, we modelers just reveal the green tone. We are "half" wrong
Hope too see more soon.
olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:57 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Very nice painting job Jim.

If I may, for the other posters, the colors underneath sand should be black and green according to the Europe camo pattern used by the British army. Too often, we modelers just reveal the green tone. We are "half" wrong
Hope too see more soon.
olivier



Ahh, good point...they originally left the factory in NATO Europe colors I'm assumuing then....?
Henk
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 01:24 AM UTC
Jim,

You're paint chipping technique looks good, but Bison is right, the paint underneath should be green and black. Looking at the pics I feel that there is an imbalance in the paint chipping. The top of the turret and the glacis are quite heavily chipped, but the side of the turret and shields are almost prestine. Most of the overall chipping would be caused by sandblast, and the vertical sides would have taken much more of a battering if compered with the rest of the chipping. Some of your chipping also seems to 'uniform' concentrated on the edges. I made that same 'mistake' on my Bradley .
I think that you should either reduce the chipping in the heavy areas, like a fairly new vehicle, or increase the chipping overall, especialy on the vertical sides, to show a very heavily weathered vehicle. The last option would visualy be quite attractive, and there are plenty of reference pics of heavily chipped British vehicles in theatre.

You made a good start, with some tweaking this will turn out excellent.

Cheers
Henk
Blade26
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 01:55 AM UTC
Hi there Jim!
I will agree with Henk here!
The Chipping should be equally made to the whole Chally!
Further than that i think it's really good!
Keep it up!
Cheers!
greatbrit
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 02:21 AM UTC
I disagree with the last couple of posts about the chipping.

The sand paint doesnt seem to adhere that well to the normal black and green paint.

Most of the photos ive seen taken by lads in my unit who have been out on telic show that the wear is usually concentrated around areas the crew will step on etc.

Once you have applied your washes and toned the finish down i think you will be well on the way to a very nice chally model!

Regards

Joe
Achile
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 06:05 AM UTC
Chipping was done with Maskol and a Micro Brush.
The under color looks too dark in contrast to the yellow-sand. Next time I will pick a lighter color than the correct color.
Anyway, I will do post-shading and filters and hope the effect will be OK.
Look also at "The Bear" 's Challenger his weathering technique are great although it is not a "chipped" tank
Achile
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 06:12 AM UTC
The color under the sand is Tamiya's Olive Drab. As I said earlier, it was OK when I painted the whole tank but seen in small areas like chipping it looks much too dark.
The gun barrel on the photos is not finished. It is a first coat. It will receive another light coat of green as the tank I am doing had a blackish green gun barrel.
bison126
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 06:20 AM UTC
Hi Achile,

please stop posting and resume painting your model. I really want to it finished and weathered :-)

Despite the above remarks (of which mine !) you've done an excellent job so far. Don't let us wait that long.

olivier
Achile
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 06:22 AM UTC
Thank you, that is what I observed too. Sandblasting does not flake or chip paint, it erodes it without leaving hard edges. Chipping is due to badly adhering paint thet flakes and is removed by boots, hands, etc.
If you look at photos of chipped British Challenger II near Basra, they are always chipped on the horizontal surface and almost not on the vertical surfaces.
Achile
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 06:24 AM UTC
I had to work on other things for the last few months but I will have finished the Challenger by the end of the year.
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