Okay armour guys and gals,i need some input in order to progress on the Marder,pic one has the assembly almost done,the first stage on the paintwork was done in matt enamel with a brush,( not having an airbrush),i then used powdered white chalk mixed with water and poured it all over the Marder,when dry it looked like it is in pic one.


Using a medium size brush i went over the chalk and brushed it down to the paintwork,in some places it flaked off,but didn't look that bad,i then used brown pastel also crushed to go into some of the nooks and crannies,what i would like to know is where if any would the rust spots be,plus any other wear and tear on the body work,what i don't want to do is overdo it on the weathering,the following pics show how far on i am,looking forward to some honest advice.
Arthur

Arthur,
I think the rust would tend to be aound the bolts and or rivets, plus the areas where you have two plates joining.
Also would be wera where the crew had walked over the deck of the vehicle and accessed the stowage boxes and such.
Would like to add, it looks like you have a good start.
Joe

Thanks Joe
Arthur

the blackened barrel tip from blast' looks nice Art...would any have covered the front topside of the vehicle from the blast also?

perhaps some grease and oil around the engine covers or tool boxes because they have been opened alot to replace track section...and try making the spare track section look as if it had just been replaced (not whitewashed) and a short section of replaced track with some whitewash residue on it.

dent up some fenders and add rust to any dent crimps...

Arthur, you work is coming along just great. Arent you usually a figure modeler?

As far as the black for the muzzle blast . I was on tanks for along time and I don't rember seeing it on the end of the gun tube. I think that the white wash looks good. and as far as rust you see it more around bolt heads. and welded areas on the vehicle.

I agree with Barron about the black muzzle...they do not use black powder anymore -- I think cordite or smokeless gun powder was used as early as 1918. The discoloration in the muzzle breaks were probably from cleaning agents as others say or just the bare metal showing -- we probably look at is as black because of the contrast with the base color w/c is dark yellow.....

Oh, BTW, you seem to be on the right track. The winter wash looks very well done...

Cheers

Pretty neat trick this one.

Another way to simulate snow is to get hold of some pigment powder from the local art store. Mix it with some water and PVA glue. It will clump together like snow.

I tried this method before adding some colour to make it look like sand.

I used to paint black fouling around my gun muzzles too, but I don't anymore because I've been told (by those who know), that only a very worn barrel & chamber will produce any black around a gun muzzle. The barrel is self cleaned to some extent (but not entirely of course) by the round passing up it. The inside of the muzzle brake & end of the barrel should be shiny silver where the paint has been abraded. Cordite was available at least as early as the Boer War, the Boers used smokeless powder.

Thanks boys,this is just the info i need you have been very helpfull,good tips on the muzzle break oil on engine covers,and the odd bit of rust,Kevin i usually paint figs,but i like to try different methods of painting and trying out new ideas.
Arthur

Very interesting way of doing a winter white-wash Arthur. It has a very natural worn-off effect. Looks like a hasty field application

Overall build is looking good too. Keep sending us pics !

The Tamiya Marder III Ausf M is a great kit isnt it ? Seeing this one makes me want to build mine now

Cheers !!

Alpen

Iit's been a long time that I looked down the end of a big gun, but I seem to remember some discoloration at the end.


I think it's unburned propelent. Check out this image of night firing and you can see how much comes out of the end.

Just an idea...

Hi Alpen,yep,its the Tamiya thingie,nice pic Neo,i think i will leave the muzzle brake till last,andd see what else comes along
Arthur