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Bogged down OIF Abrams and LAV pictures
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 09:32 PM UTC
Could be good dio ideas.....
http://www.pbase.com/greywolf2003/tank_recovery
http://www.pbase.com/greywolf2003/lav_recovery

Enjoy !
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 01:39 AM UTC
Thank for sharing this mate

more than 0.5 g/l for the tank driver ??

merci

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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 02:09 AM UTC

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more than 0.5 g/l for the tank driver ??



I don't know...But I hope he had a good pressure washer !

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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 02:35 AM UTC
Frenchy
well i'm also wondering if the M1 will work after.
Did you notice that the left track is missing on the flat bed trucks when it is still present where the tank is down in the dam, nevertheless the other track is still on even cover of mud.

Does any of us has any explanation about this accident ?

are mud baths good for tanks ?? :-) :-)
a+
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 03:34 AM UTC

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Does any of us has any explanation about this accident ?


Well I don't know about this very incident, but I've read several OIF stories about dykes collapsing under the weight of heavy AFVs and night driving along ditches being risky as well....

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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 03:57 AM UTC
Very interesting. I think that would make quite an interesting dio
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 05:57 AM UTC
Definitely would make a nice dio indeed. Question is, how do you get a figurine that would have the same guilty expressions as the ones in these photos?
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 06:41 AM UTC
In the first gallery, I am wondering what the men leaning against the tank are wearing around their shoulders. Is this new? Or is it something that just is not worn that much (i've read where men have removed their armor plates from their IBA for convenience sake)?

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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 07:17 AM UTC
Well, everyone here seems well versed in the unfortunate events that are not combat related. The roads along irragation ditches were designed for tractors, obviously not tanks. This was/is a common occurance in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even the HMMWV has difficulties because it is wider than the typical civilian car in those regions, and most roads in Afghanistan are not paved. And we try to avoid roads for obvious reasons.

Ther unique items seen on the shoulders in a couple of pictures is a supplemental piecs of body armor to protect the shoulder and armpit. This could easily be scratch built with thin foil.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:45 PM UTC
ok, explanations for the above from a tanker thats been there,
the angle at which the tank slid into the ditch unloaded the left suspension and the slide helped walk the track off, to load it on the hett it was probably eeasier, since the tank didnt run, if it did you could have probABly set it down and drove it back into its tracks,
the shoulder stuff we call our wings, there just additional kevlar material, on our shoulders to stop spalling and smaller shrapnel, they really dont stop anything so there really useless, but still required dependant on local SOP
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 08:35 PM UTC
Interesting photos, thanks for the link.
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Posted: Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 11:26 PM UTC
Hello All,
I can't remember which Marine Tank Bn or Company the tank is from but remember reading and briefing my boss on this. The tank was recovered and repaired. I retired shortly after so I didn't get the full story but the vehicle wasn't a write off it was repaired.

Semper FI
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