Hello again big A family!
Now IŽve put on chinstraps on the helmet, do they look out of scale or do they fit? I did not come up with any good way to make rivets, any idea? I also decided for autumn, started making the grondwork, put in the shovel and a water bottle and of course shot some more photos for you guys! What do you think?
I will try to make it look as if it have been some months since the soldier was buried, and therefor the shovel and waterbottle would be forgotten.
All comments and criticise are welcome! If someone have a better idea of a title, please tell me!
Cheers Andreas
Dioramas
Do you love dioramas & vignettes? We sure do.
Do you love dioramas & vignettes? We sure do.
Hosted by Darren Baker, Mario Matijasic
Life of a soldier w.i.p. part II
insolitus
Goteborgs och Bohus, Sweden
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:25 AM UTC
HONEYCUT
Victoria, Australia
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:44 AM UTC
Hej Andreas!
Really like the little vignette (Is it still a vignette without figures?) Maybe some dirt still caked on the top of the shovel (where your foot is placed to drive the shovel in when digging) even a little dirt caked up the back of the handle from the bottom where you lever the load off the edge of the hole... (Can you tell I dig holes and trenches?) :-)
I think that even a touch of new sprouted grass of a vibrant green colour would break up the earthy tones. OH, and here's a thought- how about a spider's web on the cross? Hanging from under the horizontal part down onto the vertical would look good. Sheesh, how to do it though... Fishing line and patience?
Brad
Really like the little vignette (Is it still a vignette without figures?) Maybe some dirt still caked on the top of the shovel (where your foot is placed to drive the shovel in when digging) even a little dirt caked up the back of the handle from the bottom where you lever the load off the edge of the hole... (Can you tell I dig holes and trenches?) :-)
I think that even a touch of new sprouted grass of a vibrant green colour would break up the earthy tones. OH, and here's a thought- how about a spider's web on the cross? Hanging from under the horizontal part down onto the vertical would look good. Sheesh, how to do it though... Fishing line and patience?
Brad
insolitus
Goteborgs och Bohus, Sweden
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:59 AM UTC
Brad, that spider web will be done, wonderful idea! Grass will be added, and about the dirt on the shovel, I will try to not make you dissapointed
Andreas
Andreas
Emeritus
Uusimaa, Finland
Joined: March 30, 2004
KitMaker: 2,845 posts
Armorama: 808 posts
Joined: March 30, 2004
KitMaker: 2,845 posts
Armorama: 808 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 01:17 AM UTC
Looking very nice so far! How are you planning to do the spider's web? A medal or dog tags hanging from the cross would also make a good detail. (although I think no medals would be left behind on graves. They would end up in the enemy's pockets) The scene reminds me of the cover of Metallica's Master Of Puppets.
Mech-Maniac
Virginia, United States
Joined: April 16, 2004
KitMaker: 2,240 posts
Armorama: 1,319 posts
Joined: April 16, 2004
KitMaker: 2,240 posts
Armorama: 1,319 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 08:48 AM UTC
Looks good, I think there should be more dirt on top of the ground (where the body is), not all the dirt that goes back in would be level, as the body is taking up the space.
-Shain
-Shain
insolitus
Goteborgs och Bohus, Sweden
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2005 - 09:01 AM UTC
Oh what I love this forum! Everyone has good comments! I thought of using very thin streched sprue to the spider web, hopefully it works. About dogtags, does German once look like American and Swedish dogtags or totally different?
Cheers Andreas
Cheers Andreas
Lucky
Wisconsin, United States
Joined: July 19, 2005
KitMaker: 102 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: July 19, 2005
KitMaker: 102 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 03:10 PM UTC
About dog tags, German ones are an oval shaped disc. The disc is divided by three perforations running horizontally across the center. The name and info is on both halves of the disc. It is designed to be broken in half, so you can pocket one part and leave the other with the body. Check out websites that offer reproductions to reenactors for some pics.
jazza
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: August 03, 2005
KitMaker: 2,709 posts
Armorama: 1,818 posts
Joined: August 03, 2005
KitMaker: 2,709 posts
Armorama: 1,818 posts
Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 04:00 PM UTC
Probably the most solemn vignette i have seen so far.
Probably adding a bit more dirt to where the body lies would make it more interesting?
Probably adding a bit more dirt to where the body lies would make it more interesting?
insolitus
Goteborgs och Bohus, Sweden
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:46 PM UTC
Even: Thanks! IŽll do that!
Jeremy: Solemn..hehe Good, cause then I have succeeded.
Things to do now:
More dirt
Dogtag
Painting
Grassing
Leaves
Making spider web
Cheers Andreas
Jeremy: Solemn..hehe Good, cause then I have succeeded.
Things to do now:
More dirt
Dogtag
Painting
Grassing
Leaves
Making spider web
Cheers Andreas
medic23
Arizona, United States
Joined: March 12, 2004
KitMaker: 205 posts
Armorama: 109 posts
Joined: March 12, 2004
KitMaker: 205 posts
Armorama: 109 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 01:40 AM UTC
if its been months sice the soldier was buried, the excess dirt everyone's been suggesting would have been washed away from rain and blown away from wind etc i think it looks about right. just my 2 c
cheers
cheers
tankysgal1
Nebraska, United States
Joined: January 28, 2004
KitMaker: 1,430 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: January 28, 2004
KitMaker: 1,430 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 03:16 AM UTC
This is a very nice vignette. I really like it. You asked about the chin straps. i think that maybe they are just a little bit to large..again.that is my opinon..but..as far as everything else goes..i love it. I agree with Zach..depending on how long the gravesite has been there, the dirt would be more level over the gravesite. However, the fact that the helmet is sitting atop the cross, would lead us to believe that it is a fairly new gravesite, therefore more dirt would be needed.
Can't wait to see how you do the spider web.
Can't wait to see how you do the spider web.
Tarok
Victoria, Australia
Joined: July 28, 2004
KitMaker: 10,889 posts
Armorama: 3,245 posts
Joined: July 28, 2004
KitMaker: 10,889 posts
Armorama: 3,245 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 03:21 AM UTC
Nice.... a club member did a desert grave scene a while back... even had a vulture digging a bone out...
Regarding the season... although I like the autumn idea... what about winter... as in "he entered the winter of his life"... i.e. the end of his life?
Regarding the season... although I like the autumn idea... what about winter... as in "he entered the winter of his life"... i.e. the end of his life?
AJLaFleche
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: May 05, 2002
KitMaker: 8,074 posts
Armorama: 3,293 posts
Joined: May 05, 2002
KitMaker: 8,074 posts
Armorama: 3,293 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 04:27 AM UTC
If you're going to add the spider web, sprue might look too heavy and awkward. Why not take advantace of the season we're in and head to the local arts & crafts or party store and get some decorating "spider web"?
Actually, as I think about it, you rarely see spider webs outside and not what you'd seen in a house (or creepy old castle ). Most outdoor webs only last as long as the first wind, rain or passing animal and are made of a few starnds of silk or are orbs that would not be visible in scale or pretty close to the ground.
Actually, as I think about it, you rarely see spider webs outside and not what you'd seen in a house (or creepy old castle ). Most outdoor webs only last as long as the first wind, rain or passing animal and are made of a few starnds of silk or are orbs that would not be visible in scale or pretty close to the ground.
insolitus
Goteborgs och Bohus, Sweden
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Joined: July 28, 2005
KitMaker: 649 posts
Armorama: 207 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 05:12 AM UTC
Thank you for intresting comments everyone!
Some more dirt have already been added, so itŽll stay there if it doesnŽt look totally out of place. WeŽll see... The spider web seemed to be an intresting discussion...hehe canŽt promise what IŽll do with it, how I do it or even if it will be done. Any tips regarding materials and techniques are more than welcome!
Al: Yes, youŽre probably right that you wouldnŽt see them, but I know they are there as I have walked through to many sticky spider webs in the forest
I will tolerate a little bit out of scale... Afterall it will be my first diorama/vignette in about five years.
Andreas
Some more dirt have already been added, so itŽll stay there if it doesnŽt look totally out of place. WeŽll see... The spider web seemed to be an intresting discussion...hehe canŽt promise what IŽll do with it, how I do it or even if it will be done. Any tips regarding materials and techniques are more than welcome!
Al: Yes, youŽre probably right that you wouldnŽt see them, but I know they are there as I have walked through to many sticky spider webs in the forest
I will tolerate a little bit out of scale... Afterall it will be my first diorama/vignette in about five years.
Andreas
Prato
Lisboa, Portugal
Joined: March 25, 2005
KitMaker: 1,002 posts
Armorama: 720 posts
Joined: March 25, 2005
KitMaker: 1,002 posts
Armorama: 720 posts
Posted: Friday, October 21, 2005 - 01:57 AM UTC
Awesome little vignette! I like it a lot! I'll watch closely how that web will come to live! It's really intreaging me!
Cheers and happy modelling!
Prato
Cheers and happy modelling!
Prato