Does any one in here know or has heard of the issue in injected styrene of that fascinating AFV ?
I'd really like to build one, but I am not sure if it even exist ...
Any idea of where or when I can find that ?
Thanks and regards,
Richard
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KeroJP8
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2005 - 10:52 PM UTC
Hi,
Does any one in here know or has heard of the issue in injected styrene of that fascinating AFV ?
I'd really like to build one, but I am not sure if it even exist ...
Any idea of where or when I can find that ?
Thanks and regards,
Richard
Does any one in here know or has heard of the issue in injected styrene of that fascinating AFV ?
I'd really like to build one, but I am not sure if it even exist ...
Any idea of where or when I can find that ?
Thanks and regards,
Richard
Logan
Joined: September 30, 2004
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2005 - 11:02 PM UTC
HI
As of yet no kit has been announced. Rumours ABOUND that Tamiya, Dragon and Trumpeter will all be releasing one ....
Tom
As of yet no kit has been announced. Rumours ABOUND that Tamiya, Dragon and Trumpeter will all be releasing one ....
Tom
greatbrit
Joined: May 14, 2003
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2005 - 11:59 PM UTC
There have been several threads about the Stryker here, and from what i understand there is some issue with General Dynamics demanding royalties from any products made from their equipment(rediculous i know)
The rumours suggest also suggest a Canadian LAV3, is the base vehicle made by someone else?
Regards
Joe
The rumours suggest also suggest a Canadian LAV3, is the base vehicle made by someone else?
Regards
Joe
USArmy2534
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 05:27 AM UTC
This topic comes up about once a month and the answers are the same...royalties, lack of possible sales...on an on. Do a search for Stryker on here and you should find all the previously posted RUMORS. And that is what you need to know about possible Strykers: they are all RUMORS.
No one really knows.
Sorry, hopefully we will see something new.
Jeff
No one really knows.
Sorry, hopefully we will see something new.
Jeff
Petition2God
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 05:51 AM UTC
Yea, KeroJP8 is a newbie so let's be nice to him. He probably has not searched or did not know how to search for previous forum posts. I certainly did not know how to when I first joined. Anyways, as far as I know, there is no plan by any "styrene" company to produce one at this point so save your trouble of looking for one, Kero. Armorama will be the first place to hear about it IF it is ever released though.
Tankleader
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 06:35 AM UTC
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There have been several threads about the Stryker here, and from what i understand there is some issue with General Dynamics demanding royalties from any products made from their equipment(rediculous i know)
The rumours suggest also suggest a Canadian LAV3, is the base vehicle made by someone else?
Regards
Joe
Joe,
The LAVIII and the Stryker are essentially the same vehicle with different names, the Hull is made by General Dynamics Land Systems Canada, and the turrets are made by General Dynamics Land Systems U.S..
Tanks
Andy
SEDimmick
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 07:02 AM UTC
I saw over on ML that Jose R. saw some documation with an agreement with DML and General Dynamics in reguards to the Stryker. I know at one point in time he was working on a resin kit of the Styker, so he might have ran across the wrath of GD legal Dept doing so 
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 07:38 AM UTC
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an agreement with DML and General Dynamics in reguards to the Stryker.
I can only say
Pawel
USArmy2534
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:24 AM UTC
OH HELL YA, PAWEL YOU ARE MY HERO!
PS: my first response was venting at yet another Stryker kit question and not towards any new member. Sorry for any confusion.
Jeff
PS: my first response was venting at yet another Stryker kit question and not towards any new member. Sorry for any confusion.
Jeff
Burik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:54 AM UTC
I'm sure the licensing thing is a major factor in this. But I also think since it is still a rather new vehicle in limited numbers kit makers have not had a chance to see it up close and personal yet. I think only one base in the US has them. One in S Korea too. I know the Army is ramping up other units with them, but I think they are all on paper still. I'm sure someday we'll see some Strykers - there are 9 or 10 variants, depending on who's counting, so you would think there would be lots of possibilities.
I will be interested to see if the kit makers try to replicate the slat armor that is seen in Iraq. That looks REALLY complicated to do in scale, besides mapping out all those different parts of the slat armor.
I also read somewhere that the Army is developing a new add-on armor to replace the slat armor (it doesn't work as well as they had hoped against certain RPGs), so future Strykers will even look a little different than they do now. So, there are lots of possibilities for us once we get that first variant or two.
I will be interested to see if the kit makers try to replicate the slat armor that is seen in Iraq. That looks REALLY complicated to do in scale, besides mapping out all those different parts of the slat armor.
I also read somewhere that the Army is developing a new add-on armor to replace the slat armor (it doesn't work as well as they had hoped against certain RPGs), so future Strykers will even look a little different than they do now. So, there are lots of possibilities for us once we get that first variant or two.
Ric_Cody
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:07 AM UTC
Currently there are only 3 Stryker Brigade Combat Teams that have been stood up. 3rd BDE 2ID out of Fort Lewis WA, 1st BDE 25th ID out of Fort Lewis, and 172nd BDE from Fort Wainwright Alaska. Are the only ones that have been stood up.
Currently 2nd Cavalry Regiment is being fielded at Fort Lewis. Right now I am in a hotel room in Yakima WA as the Troop that we are fielding is going through their 1 week they spend out here for Live Fire and some additional training.
Right now there are 8 of 10 vehicles that are being issued. #'s 9 and 10 are the NBCRV and the MGS. We have instructors going through training right now on those two variants so that within the next 1-2 years we can start fielding them to the Army.
Any other questions my email is [email protected]
Ric
Currently 2nd Cavalry Regiment is being fielded at Fort Lewis. Right now I am in a hotel room in Yakima WA as the Troop that we are fielding is going through their 1 week they spend out here for Live Fire and some additional training.
Right now there are 8 of 10 vehicles that are being issued. #'s 9 and 10 are the NBCRV and the MGS. We have instructors going through training right now on those two variants so that within the next 1-2 years we can start fielding them to the Army.
Any other questions my email is [email protected]
Ric
SEDimmick
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:47 AM UTC
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I also read somewhere that the Army is developing a new add-on armor to replace the slat armor (it doesn't work as well as they had hoped against certain RPGs), so future Strykers will even look a little different than they do now. So, there are lots of possibilities for us once we get that first variant or two.
Isnt that what the Aftermarket is for? :-D
Burik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 06:31 PM UTC
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I also read somewhere that the Army is developing a new add-on armor to replace the slat armor (it doesn't work as well as they had hoped against certain RPGs), so future Strykers will even look a little different than they do now. So, there are lots of possibilities for us once we get that first variant or two.
Isnt that what the Aftermarket is for? :-D
Scott:
Hopefully the AM people can handle it. I sure hate to do that much scratchbuilding. But, it might not be that simple. It depends on how the new add-on armor is attached and how it looks compared to what is already on the model.. It might not be so easy to slap something ontop of what is already there. One might need to REMOVE lots of plastic before the new armor can be added. I don't know much about the Stryker, but I have read that there already is some type of tile armor on it. I would assume this will be part of the plastic model already. So that could be difficult to remove if things change.
But I know nothing about manufacturing models. I think I had too many beers tonight...babbling...
But Tamiya took care of it with all the changes to the Bradley over the years (Pawel would have something to say about that I'm sure
).
junglejim
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 07:30 PM UTC
Curious if the slat armor has any advantage over the applique-type bolt-on armor as used by Canadian LAV-III's (photo taken by a friend of mine when he was over in Afghanistan last year)
Maybe this is what the US Army is looking at?
Cheers,
Jim
Maybe this is what the US Army is looking at?
Cheers,
Jim
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:24 PM UTC
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Curious if the slat armor has any advantage over the applique-type bolt-on armor as used by Canadian LAV-III's
Jim,
US Strykers use the same or similar type of bolt-on applique armor as standard. The slat armor is attached to vehicles that already have bolt-on armor on them.
Pawel
junglejim
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:35 AM UTC
My bad! Heh-heh, should have checked some reference photos first O Quite a bit of additional weight with the applique AND slat armour packages installed, I would think.
Jim
O Quite a bit of additional weight with the applique AND slat armour packages installed, I would think. Jim
2CAVTrooper
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 05:43 AM UTC
All the applique armor does is provide improved protection against ballistic weapons.
The slat armor is to combat chemical energy (HEAT) warheads by breaking them up or detonating them far enough from the vehicle so the plasma jet has little to no effect.
I've heard rumors about new armor packages for the strykers ranging from something similar to the ERA package used on the old USMC M-60 tanks to new ceramic composites
The slat armor is to combat chemical energy (HEAT) warheads by breaking them up or detonating them far enough from the vehicle so the plasma jet has little to no effect.
I've heard rumors about new armor packages for the strykers ranging from something similar to the ERA package used on the old USMC M-60 tanks to new ceramic composites
airbornematt
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 10:28 AM UTC
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Currently there are only 3 Stryker Brigade Combat Teams that have been stood up. 3rd BDE 2ID out of Fort Lewis WA, 1st BDE 25th ID out of Fort Lewis, and 172nd BDE from Fort Wainwright Alaska. Are the only ones that have been stood up.
Currently 2nd Cavalry Regiment is being fielded at Fort Lewis. Right now I am in a hotel room in Yakima WA as the Troop that we are fielding is going through their 1 week they spend out here for Live Fire and some additional training.
Right now there are 8 of 10 vehicles that are being issued. #'s 9 and 10 are the NBCRV and the MGS. We have instructors going through training right now on those two variants so that within the next 1-2 years we can start fielding them to the Army.
Any other questions my email is [email protected]
Ric
some of my AIT buddies based with the 25th in Hawaii said they're getting Stryker's this summer. Which brigade it is escapes me at the current moment.
SEDimmick
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 03:37 PM UTC
Quoted Text
All the applique armor does is provide improved protection against ballistic weapons.
The slat armor is to combat chemical energy (HEAT) warheads by breaking them up or detonating them far enough from the vehicle so the plasma jet has little to no effect.
I've heard rumors about new armor packages for the strykers ranging from something similar to the ERA package used on the old USMC M-60 tanks to new ceramic composites
There was a Photo on JED that showed the Stykers fitted with ERA bricks...
Red4
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 03:43 PM UTC
Patiently waiting for something to find its way to the LHS's on this very cool vehicle. Sitting with fingers crossed. "Q"
Ric_Cody
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 02:12 PM UTC
Currently we are schedualed to go to Hawaii next summer. There are no Strykers being issued to 2/25 until then.
Ric
Ric
2CAVTrooper
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 06:41 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextAll the applique armor does is provide improved protection against ballistic weapons.
The slat armor is to combat chemical energy (HEAT) warheads by breaking them up or detonating them far enough from the vehicle so the plasma jet has little to no effect.
I've heard rumors about new armor packages for the strykers ranging from something similar to the ERA package used on the old USMC M-60 tanks to new ceramic composites
There was a Photo on JED that showed the Stykers fitted with ERA bricks...
What's JED?
matt
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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 06:58 AM UTC
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