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Snow - microballons, WS, baking soda...?
Maki
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:44 PM UTC
Hey guys, I'd like to make a thin layer of snow for my vignette. What would give the best results? I've heard of baking soda turning yellow over time... what are your impressions?

There are some scenic products that could help here: Woodland Scenic Snow , Snow and Ice-Coat from Small Shop , Microballoons... What would be the best product in your oppinion? Where can I get Microballoons?

Thanks,
Mario.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:26 PM UTC
Hi there Mario,
I was at my local plant store the other day and they had an area full with products for people who do flower arranging.There were about 5 snow products in spraycans for decorating dried plants etc. for christmas decorations.I am by no means an expert but maybe that might be an option.My next dio will have a winter scene and i'd like to use snow,but like you probably want more info for the best way to achieve it.The idea of using baking soda doesn't sound very appealing even though other guys swear by it!
Good luck,Shay
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:30 PM UTC
Hi Mario

I can only advise with regards baking soda

Yes baking soda does yellow over time so i guess that narrows down your choices

p.s we all know no one like to see yellow snow :-)

Ian
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:48 PM UTC
I has made snow with baking soda - in fact it turned somewhat pinkish by the time (I did not overcoat it with clear though)

But it looks good. Somebody told me to overspray the baking soda with hairspray, to crystallize it
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 12:55 AM UTC
I have used baking soda, and Woodland Scenic's snow. The baking soda turned a dull yellow over time, but the WS still looks great.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 01:42 AM UTC
I have used baby powder, and sealed it with hairspray.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 02:51 AM UTC
The Woodland Scenics Snow is the best way to go. As others have attested to above, baking soda and other food items will discolor or be eaten by bugs over time. The WS Snow is Microbaloons. It is great stuff and an $8 container will last many a blizzard.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 02:53 AM UTC
Thanks for the replies guys... anyone tried Snow-Coat and Ice-Coat from SmallShopEU? The pics on their website look quite convincing...

Mario.

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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 04:26 AM UTC
Mario

WS works well.You can also add Henki snow and/or Hudson & Alan snow or slush to it.These products cost more but if you add small amounts to the WS it will give it the sparkle of real snow

Jim
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 08:25 AM UTC
Mario, I have the sno coat and ice coat but havent tried them yet. As for other snow, my favorite is marble dust, you can find it at a railroad hobby shop. Hope this helps. Cheers Kevin
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 09:43 AM UTC
When I was at the IPMS nationals in Phoienix on 04' I saw the Snow Coat, Unfortunately I was out of spendable cash at the time DOH!! From what I saw it is about as real looking as you can get. I have seen the WS stuff too, but my vote would be for the Snow Coat. HTH. "Q"
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 07:43 PM UTC
Thanks guys... I appreciate the help.



Mario.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 08:48 PM UTC
hey all

im doing a battle of the bulge diorama and cant deside woodland sencies or baking powder.I no it turns yellow over time so that wouldnt be a good idea and the WS is quite dear over here and how well does baby powder do as snow with hairspray on it.

cheers
matt
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Posted: Friday, November 04, 2005 - 06:02 AM UTC
Baby powder will yellow over time too. Save yourself the hassle and spend a few extra bucks for the WS Snow. You won't regret it.
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Posted: Friday, November 04, 2005 - 08:53 AM UTC
If you have craft stores near you such as Michaels or Hobby Lobby there are several products they sell that can help.

In the christmas aisle (yeah they have one year round at my michaels) they have tubs of snow in various textures. Some in very fine - almost a spackle - and others are kind of rough. Others have sparkles added. The stuff is nice because it thins with water so you have many ways to apply.

it's also real handy to use for mud and muck. once hard - and it dries rock hard - it can be painted any ways you like. you can also add colorings such as woodlands scenics acrylics.

However one thing it doesn't provide is a powdery look. you can use it as a base and then apply a dusting of Hudson and Allen or other powedered snow - even powdered white granite from the local tombstone cutters.
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:00 AM UTC
Mario, try "snowflakes" by Techstar. I have it here at my shop for $4.00 for a small packet. The product is microballoons, but it works real well, esp for small dioramas and/or vignettes.

Send me a PM here on Armorama if you want to order. I can also get the Woodland Scenics "snow" ($8.00), and have Hudson & Allen "snow" ($6.00) and "slush" ($6.00) in stock as well.

Any or all 3 products are highly recommended

Cheers !!

Alpen
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