I have a feeling i already know the answer to the question im about to ask but i figured its best to check here anyway but is there any consistency in the type of exhaust stack used in conjunction with the "air intake stack" on the humvee for either the Marines or Army? ie: When a tall exhaust stack is used, the tall air intake stack is also only used.

Based on my knowledge on conventional 4WD, it would make sense to always have both "tall" components in order for the vehicle to be submerged under water without flooding the engine. If a short air intake is used, a conventional exhaust would also be used.

Would they ever mix and match? ie: Tall air intake and conventional "short" exhaust?

Alltough I thought you gave the answer yourself, I did find a picture proving I was wrong...


So; YES it does happen...



edit; it seems to happen only on the M1114...

It's actually pretty random. Depending on what the crew to the vehicle has done, or what the unit has required, depends on how your fording equipment was mounted onto the Hummer. It is relatively rare to see the exhaust piece to the fording gear, rather common to see the intake stack.

Most of the exhaust stacks I have seen, operationally, were on scout vehicles, or other vehicles that had determined a purpose for the need to ford at operator's neck height.

You can order a complete kit that comes with all the items needed to install the deep water fording kit onto your truck, which is the intake and exhaust modifications.

Jed Sargent

Of the many years that I had a Truck Scout platoon, we had a variety of mixtures. Feel free to mix and match. It isn't that uncommon to see a tall exhaust with short intake and vice versa. At one point I had a truck with 3 hard doors and 1 soft door. We called it "Mutley" because it was so ugly. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do with what you have. "Q"

Matt and Jared are both right. Typically, which is a dangerous word in this hobby, older Army HMMWV have the short/short combo. It was pretty uncommon to find the "fording kit" on Army vehicles, but every time I saw a USMC vehicle here on Bragg, it was always the tall/tall. Now the newer models, M1114 etc. I think most are coming from the factory with the tall intake, but I haven't been on one with a tall exhaust.

On a personnal note, I don't klnow about others here, but I can't stand working with the new ones. Great armor, but there's no room to work. Judging by the pics I see coming from Iraq, the newer vehicles don't survive the IED's, So for speed and easier working space, I'll take my chances.

Thanks for helping me clear this up guys.




Thats a great photo there Jurgen. Will definitely be saving that for reference. Its actually the better desert photos of the humvee that i have seen which uncle Google wasn't able to provide. Ive never seen any with the smoke launchers like its depicted in this photo though. Time to use those left over parts i have and do a little kit bashing i think.

The M1114 is a decent vehicle for what we needed it for in eastern Baghdad. Through the course of the year, we only had one totally catastrophicly destroyed truck(caught fire, melted down), others would get hit, only had two that were penetrated bad enough for causing death. Both of those trucks were back on the road, fully repaired, not much further down the road. Compared to what I started with, the old classic no door no armor truck, I liked the level of armor. Now if we could only get the whole truck made out of the stuff the windows are...

Inside they are cramped as all get out, but you have to picture that no HMMWV has been designed with a soldier wearing full gear to be riding in it, operationally. At least the seatbelts were long enough to wrap around you, if you were in an environment where you could wear them. Riding in any seat other than the drivers, you had to almost turn to get a pair of long legs settled in with your gear, and heaven forbid you have FBCB2 or BFT, blocking your view towards the driver.

Still, not a bad truck, could be better, but it's doing a job it wasn't originally desiged for.

Jed