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Airbrush in the house or Workshop/Shed
invasion1973
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 09:35 PM UTC
Just a quick question guys do you airbrush in the house someplace, or in a workshop/Shed ?

My dilemma is do I tturn my shed (10x13ft) into my modelling workshop and airbrushing area, or do I continue indoors.

I like building indoors as I cant be moaned at by the wife for shutting myself away and while she is watching tv etc I can chat with her as I am building.

so building indoors is fine, but I cant decide about Airbrushing. Over time would the wife start to find speckles of paint on things that it shouldnt be? I could build an MDF box to paint model in like a spray enclosure to help contain the spray in the air . I was also thinking that this time of year the paints are going to get very cold outside in my shed, and that could effect my airbrushing.

anyway enough of my rambling what do you guys do...what should I do ? any thoughts appreciated.


A J

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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:27 PM UTC
Hiya AJ
I am lucky enough to have a loft conversion which is largely my modelling den and recently bought a lovely Iwata airbrush and compressor unit, almost silent running so from a noise point of view is perfect for using indoors. I think the nail brushing industry use them etc. Also, I try now to almost always water based/odour-free acrylics which makes air brushing indoors much more pleasant. My spray booth incidently is just a big cardboard box! Nothing fancy thats for sure. Having to spray out in a shed is not very sociable and this time of year, you would freeze your b*ll*cks off!!!
Good Luck
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:02 AM UTC
I paint in the house in the spare room. If you airbrushed in the house I would recommend using acrylics as they have less of a solvent smell about them, but there will still be some odour.

In my experience overspray doesn't travel far, so if you have a good large surface to work on there'll be no problems, even better if you can build walls on three sides. I always manage to spill some paint though, so you have to bank on the odd idiocy problem.

I use a large CO2 tank which is completely silent, some compressors can make a heck of a racket and even many quiter ones can be annoying.

So therefore, it is perfectly possible to work within talking distance of SWMBO. However, also bear in mind that your workspace can evolve into a large black hole full of all sorts of stuff.

Ross
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2005 - 02:36 AM UTC
I build upstairs,and have a spraybooth in my cellar.I am assuming you don't have a cellar.
If you must use enamels,and have the euros (sorry) pounds Sterling to buy one,get a spray booth with a fan.The actual build takes longer than painting,so the SWMBO may not mind momentary abscences. (++) (++)
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2005 - 05:15 AM UTC
I use the basement as my building/painting area...it's in the process{and a slow one at that} of being remodelled, it's quiet, and I don't get too bothered by the wife and kids. I use arcylic paint so the smell doesn't permiate the whole house...oil based paint would be another story I guess. I do have the luxery of having an old wall fan down here where they had the wetbar and ran some BX for some decent lighting in the workarea. An old folding table{6'} serves as my building table and the fireplace serves as the box desposal...and heat during the winter months.
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2005 - 07:52 AM UTC
In the bedroom...... :-) :-)
with a spraybooth...... !!!!
:-) :-)
invasion1973
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 11:26 PM UTC
HI,

Well judging from what you guys have said I think I will stay indoors that will keep the other half happy.
Just got to make myself up a spray booth now think I will make somthing out of MDF...I can hear the wife now "And where do you think that is going to go"

The wife came with me to the local model shop yesterday, and when we got back in the car she said " I saw somthing I liked in the model shop" in amazment I said "really what was it " now I should of seen this coming she replied "the door".

Thanks for the replies appreciated

A J

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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 02:59 AM UTC
A J,

Here are a few photos of my set up. It's in the basement, what you folks call the cellar. You can accomplish this set up anywhere near a window, or if you have access to the loft, then it's a matter of creating a vent hole through to the outside. The hood vent is standard issue for most stoves, the vent hood has 2 halogen lights built in, which combined with the secondary lights and the white paint jobs gives you plenty of illumination. Hook up 8" heating ducting and seal it with foil duct tape (has to be HVAC foil). The exhaust vent outside the house is a pre-fab vent/cover-in-one, (so the rain/snow wont get it). My wife says you Britons can find it at any D.I.Y. (do it yourself) stores, similar to our Home Depot and Rona's here in Canada. For the electrical, we spliced it using a grounded extension cord. I've had this set up now for 2 years and I've noticed a huge difference, I'm not high as a kite, sfter a 3 hour session anymore....

A J.... one more thing, tell your wife that you could be doing far worse things with your spare time, ( using the oppposition at a local football game for dart practice comes to mind....

and by the way, my loving wife not only purchased all of the above, but built it for me!!!! She says, that if you pay for her airfare, she will be more than willing to come over and build it for you, she'll even buy you a pint of your favourite.........




Frank
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 03:39 AM UTC
That is a very well organised build area.
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 04:20 AM UTC
I Airbrush out in my shop - converted garage. I used to have a space in the basement but the smell would get into the furnace and be spread throught the house - I moved to the shop to stay married!
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 04:23 AM UTC

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A J,

Here are a few photos of my set up. It's in the basement, what you folks call the cellar. You can accomplish this set up anywhere near a window, or if you have access to the loft, then it's a matter of creating a vent hole through to the outside. The hood vent is standard issue for most stoves, the vent hood has 2 halogen lights built in, which combined with the secondary lights and the white paint jobs gives you plenty of illumination. Hook up 8" heating ducting and seal it with foil duct tape (has to be HVAC foil). The exhaust vent outside the house is a pre-fab vent/cover-in-one, (so the rain/snow wont get it). My wife says you Britons can find it at any D.I.Y. (do it yourself) stores, similar to our Home Depot and Rona's here in Canada. For the electrical, we spliced it using a grounded extension cord. I've had this set up now for 2 years and I've noticed a huge difference, I'm not high as a kite, sfter a 3 hour session anymore....

A J.... one more thing, tell your wife that you could be doing far worse things with your spare time, ( using the oppposition at a local football game for dart practice comes to mind....

and by the way, my loving wife not only purchased all of the above, but built it for me!!!! She says, that if you pay for her airfare, she will be more than willing to come over and build it for you, she'll even buy you a pint of your favourite.........




Frank


I am very impressed with your shop!
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 04:45 AM UTC
Temperature and humiity have an effect too so if you cannot control them you won't be able to spray year round
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 06:28 AM UTC
I also use a vented self-made spray booth, acrylics and a CO2 tank. I like to stay warm and cozy when I build models.
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 07:12 AM UTC
I spray in the house.. Use acrylics exclusivly now.. im down in a portion of the basement that is unfinished. I open a window and have had no issues...

Frank, nice looking set up. I dont see the trusty Paasche in those shots though..

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 09:10 AM UTC
Dave,

Funny enough, my airbrush is still sitting in my tool box, where I left it after the hobby show.... I haven't been very productive in the last few weeks..... if anyone got the wrong impression that I'm organized.... I apologize! Organized is the last thing I am, I've no idea half the time where my supplies are, and often buy duplicates of tools and accessories. Here's an additional couple of shots of my work areas (which seem to slowly spread around the house until we have guests over)..... can you tell I've got a very tolerant wife!

1st photo is the main working area in from of the TV, (notice the pillow and blanket,... too lazy to go upstairs to bed!!!)

2nd photo is the upstairs dinner table, this folks, hasn't been cleaned out in over a month!

3rd and 4th photo are the stashes of models.

and lastly, the minute (in comparison) amount of completed models, over the last 10 years. I figure my ratio of completed to started to unopened models, is around 1%, 40%, 59%..... quite sad really....





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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 09:43 AM UTC
I too airbrush indoors, and I use acrylics for anything I must airbrush for that very reason. I am in process of starting a cellar "studio" and was going to install a spray booth, because I do not wish to be constrained to acrylics for the rest of my modeling days. I would eventually like to experiment with metalizer colors etc... I really like the spray booth you have there Frank...and will be most likely building a similar design...there are no patents or copyrights on that are there? I was going to install a outside vent in the wall of my home since I don't have any windows nearby to do it like you did.
invasion1973
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Posted: Monday, November 21, 2005 - 06:20 AM UTC
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and by the way, my loving wife not only purchased all of the above, but built it for me!!!! She says, that if you pay for her airfare, she will be more than willing to come over and build it for you, she'll even buy you a pint of your favourite.........




Frank[/quote]

That is impressive and even more so your wife built it for you!

I found a similar hood extractor at Screwfix Direct for £60 and they also sell the ducting...so thanks to you and your wife for the idea and the offer of a pint

I will post some pictures of mine when I have built it, and if I get stuck tell your wife to expect a ticket
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