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Ruined buildings and city scenes.
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Church dio - I
Simon
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 07:37 AM UTC
Hi there!

My new project: A church ruin, with interesting surroundings...I hope.

The ruin is Verlinden old kit - Ruined church - which has been painted and weathered. I also made the interior.
Next to the ruin there's a park wall. That's homemade from sheets of stone I found at the hobbystore.

My idea is to make a cobblestone paved road between the church and the parkwall. In front of the church I havn't decided yet wether it should be a paved entrance square or a little entrance with flowers and shrubbery.

As for figgies and vehicles, I hav'nt decided yet. But I intend to keep you posted with more church-news.








Comments, ideas, reactions, criticism are welcomed.

Simon
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 07:40 AM UTC
Don't forget the bell
Norseman
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 06:43 PM UTC
You should be careful to align things along the edges of the base. Try to turn everything a bit so nothing are parallell with the edges.

Otherwise this has the potential of becoming a really nice dio.

Keep us posted
Hwa-Rang
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 06:57 PM UTC
Looks like a good setup Simon.

I agree with Henrik on the position of the buildings. It looks better if the buildings are not perpendicular to the sides of the baseplate.

Looking forward to see some more.
Norseman
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 07:01 PM UTC
I don't know why, but for some reason I really like "church-dios". This interest might be triggered by Marjin Van Gils wonderful Godverdomme diorama
Simon
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 07:32 PM UTC
Hi
Thanks for your replies. I agree with the edges, but I'm working on a bigger project, which this church dio will be a part of. I intend to increase the size, by making a dio that connects eachother. The next dio could (probably will) be some kind of park/cemetary where the parkwall is. Am I clear? In other words: The dios are modules that can be connected to one big dio...

Anyway. Thanks again for your replies. Its appreciated.

Simon

PS: I like the Godverdomme dio myself. Its impressive

nato308
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 11:34 PM UTC
Are you going to do the ruined interior of the church?
Norseman
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 11:42 PM UTC
I understand what you mean. But you can still manage to turn the buildings a bit. Even though you are making several modules that you will connect together. A diorama looks so much better when things are not aligned to the edges.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:11 AM UTC
I would have to agree with the above statement... I think you should angle it a little as well. That way you have options for a stand alone dio. It will add so much more dynamics to the overall layout.
Simon
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 06:12 AM UTC
Well I guess you've persuaded me. It seems to me that I'll have to have some other angles on the dio.
I'll try something out, and let you know.

nato308: Yes, I'll make the church interior.

Thanks again for your replies

Simon
Marty
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 07:19 AM UTC
I don't know, maybe it's just me but your park wall appears out of scale. It is extremely tall and very thick. It is actually thicker then the outside wall of your church. Also the column on the end of that wall appears to be quite large as well. What 1:1 scale dimensions would the wall and the column be?
Simon
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 06:59 AM UTC
Marty: The park element were build with any kind of measurements whatsoever, so I cannot tell you the 1:1 dimensions. I don't think the park elements are too thick or tall, I've seen elements that are bigger (than I, that is!) .

But I aprreciate your comments. We all try to seek the most realistic outcome of our work. But realism may be a very individual question with many answers.

Simon
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 07:07 AM UTC
What is the base made out of -it looks translucent?
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 08:06 AM UTC
Ola Simon

This is a diorama base with a lot of potential. With this I mean it can be virtually everything... Every village/city in Europe does have a church. From Spain to Poland you will find churches... Ok they do vary somewhat per country but that doesn`t matter much. This means you can add doesn`t matter what figures and it doesn`t matter what scene you create it is almost always good.

Couple of things I would change.
As other people have said put the church at a little angle. it creates more interest in the scene. If I had to decide I would skip the wall next to the church. it is really big. You probably had some work with it I can see that but it kinda distracts from the church.

Another thing worth noticing for further stages is the fact that a church usually stands at a square. In the early days the Church was usually in the center of a village and/or a town. The Market was also always held around the church. This means that you could have quite some area with cobblestones in front of the church.
In the cities eventually the square became less and less as more people came to inhabit the city and more houses needed to be built. In a lot of european cities you now have often a church between houses.
If you want to have a church ruin in a busy city you could have a house in the place where you now have your wall. Fun thing would be if the house is still intact. It often happened that one building was almost demolished to the ground while the other next to it did not even have shattered glass. Another idea could maybe be adding a little path on the right side of the church and next to that a graveyard which was not uncommon in those days either.

Now one thing returms everytime somebody builds a ruin.... Rubble. Make sure you have enough of it. I can`t really say how big this ruin section is but even a little church is a big building and will definately bring up a huge load of rubble. from complete pieces of wall to the smaller type of building stone often used in churches. Also a lot of wood.
As to the interior..... I`m not a believer but I love to visit churches... That is more for the building and architecture then the religion. Often you have at the entrance a little cabinet with bibles or prayer books or maybe it even are books with psalms I really don`t know but that might be a nice touch.

As for the rest.... I might think some other things up with your next update... I will try to follow this thread as good as I can as I`m really curious what you will make of it. It is in a very early stadium I know but looking forward to the rest

Marty
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 10:04 AM UTC

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I don't think the park elements are too thick or tall, I've seen elements that are bigger (than I, that is!) .



Well, than it must be me :-)
Simon
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Posted: Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:48 AM UTC
Hi again!

BM2: Its a quite thick plastic sheet I found at the hobby store.

FAUST: I agree with you that the remaining of the church litterally should be filled with all sorts of debris. The entire roof's gone, and the rather high walls has been blown to bits. So, yes, I will place a lot of debris. A lot more than mr. Verlinden has in his ruins, if I may be so bold.

Thanks for your remarks, and look out for more news from the church!

Simon

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