Posted this a while ago but I have got no replies, I am trying to build a Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.H with the late war Small Panther turret -Schmallturm - but have no info on this tank - can anybody recommend books or articles I can obtain (in English please) to give comprehensive info, including camo schemes
thanks for any help
regards
Gren
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Panzer IV Books and References needed
Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 05:42 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 05:54 AM UTC
There isn't really much out there on this tank as it was never produced, to my knowledge. There is a line drawing of it in Schiffer Publishing's book "Panzer IV and its Variants" by Walter J. Spielberger. That's pretty much it.
Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 10:08 AM UTC
Hi Gren,
As it happens, I'm building the Panzer IV "Schmallturm" by Azimut at the moment. A busy period at work means that progress is slow, but you can follow my attempts here .
This is a complete multi media kit, are you looking for this, or are you planning on scratchbuilding?
References are very thin on the ground, Alex is right, this one never seems to have come past the design stage. The turret would have over loaded the chassis to much. But it's a good looking Pzr, as are all Pzr IV's...
Cheers
Henk
As it happens, I'm building the Panzer IV "Schmallturm" by Azimut at the moment. A busy period at work means that progress is slow, but you can follow my attempts here .
This is a complete multi media kit, are you looking for this, or are you planning on scratchbuilding?
References are very thin on the ground, Alex is right, this one never seems to have come past the design stage. The turret would have over loaded the chassis to much. But it's a good looking Pzr, as are all Pzr IV's...
Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 06:48 PM UTC
There might some info here
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 05:34 AM UTC
Thomans Jentz has an issue of Panzer Tracts entitled Paper Panzers (#20-1). This might have some informations that would be of assistance. I've not seen that issue but the PanzerTracts I've got have always been a lot of help.
Good luck. Sound like an interesting build.
Scott
Good luck. Sound like an interesting build.
Scott
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:35 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:50 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:54 AM UTC
Hi Gren,
Two great references I have on the PzIV H are the Achtung Panzer Pz IV book and the Trojca PzIV G/H/J volume 2. They will set you back around $44CDN and $25CDN respectively....
Frank
Two great references I have on the PzIV H are the Achtung Panzer Pz IV book and the Trojca PzIV G/H/J volume 2. They will set you back around $44CDN and $25CDN respectively....
Frank
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 05:41 PM UTC
Alex
many thanks for the help, I will check out the Panzer IV and its Variants book and do the best I can with the model
regards
Gren
many thanks for the help, I will check out the Panzer IV and its Variants book and do the best I can with the model
regards
Gren
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 05:57 PM UTC
Hi Henk
thanks a lot for the info, I'm not as brave or daft as you and am only attempting a 1/72 CMK conversion/Revell Pzr IV Ausf. H. Your work on the Azimut kit looks great and just the sort of detailing I will be doing on my kit.
regards
Gren
PS Derek (Barton) The Artillery Guy - sends his best (you met him at the Nationals) and be assured I've taught him nothing he dos'nt know already
thanks a lot for the info, I'm not as brave or daft as you and am only attempting a 1/72 CMK conversion/Revell Pzr IV Ausf. H. Your work on the Azimut kit looks great and just the sort of detailing I will be doing on my kit.
regards
Gren
PS Derek (Barton) The Artillery Guy - sends his best (you met him at the Nationals) and be assured I've taught him nothing he dos'nt know already
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 05:59 PM UTC
Hi
thanks a lot for the link - it's great detail information on Panzer IV's
regards
Gren
thanks a lot for the link - it's great detail information on Panzer IV's
regards
Gren
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 06:04 PM UTC
Hi Scott
many thanks for the info - I will try to track down the Panzer tracts issues in the UK.
regards
Gren
PS does anyone know of a UK source for this magazine?
many thanks for the info - I will try to track down the Panzer tracts issues in the UK.
regards
Gren
PS does anyone know of a UK source for this magazine?
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 06:07 PM UTC
Hi Reb
thanks a lot - that's a great link and just the sort of camo detail I need
regards
gren
thanks a lot - that's a great link and just the sort of camo detail I need
regards
gren
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 06:09 PM UTC
Hi Jim
that link gives a lot of good detail photos, thanks a lot
regards
Gren
that link gives a lot of good detail photos, thanks a lot
regards
Gren
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 06:13 PM UTC
Hi Frank
many thanks for the references - I will try to have a look at these, do you know if these cover the proposed Schmallturm (Panther Turret) variant?
regards
Gren
many thanks for the references - I will try to have a look at these, do you know if these cover the proposed Schmallturm (Panther Turret) variant?
regards
Gren
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2005 - 04:58 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Scott
many thanks for the info - I will try to track down the Panzer tracts issues in the UK.
regards
Gren
PS does anyone know of a UK source for this magazine?
Here is what I got from the Panzer Tracts website:
Military History Books, 27 High Street, Hythe, Kent, England, UK
Tank Museum Trading Company, Tank Museum, Bovington, Dorset BH20 6JG, England
Sorry for the delay in response.
Scott