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hellbent11
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Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 11:13 AM UTC
What do you guys use to fill the gaps left on things like handles on hatches where they meet the hatch? I've been usuing a extra thick super glue to simulate a welded effect but it's not exactly what I'm going for. Any ideas?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 03:00 AM UTC
I like Mr Surfacer 500. It will fill small gaps and is soft enough when dry to be scraped away close to the mating surfaces if need be.

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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 03:26 AM UTC
I'm not sure what you are getting at. But I think either method, yours or tankmodelers should work. I don't know why there would be a gap, but when I think of a handle, I am thinking of a very small thing
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 01:01 PM UTC
Blaster, I guess I should have clarified it better. Where handles and other items meet the hull there are small weld beads that hold the object to the hull. You find gaps in these areas on kits especially on older Tamiya kits. What I want to simulate is a smooth joint between the handle etc. to the hull. I just haven't hit the mark with thick super glue so I'm looking for something else. Hope you have some good ideas! Thanks!
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 07:15 PM UTC

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Blaster, I guess I should have clarified it better. Where handles and other items meet the hull there are small weld beads that hold the object to the hull. You find gaps in these areas on kits especially on older Tamiya kits. What I want to simulate is a smooth joint between the handle etc. to the hull. I just haven't hit the mark with thick super glue so I'm looking for something else. Hope you have some good ideas! Thanks!



I have a simple solution: Get some Tamiya Extra Thin cement (best cement I've ever used) and apply a little more than you would to just normally bond parts, pressing down on the part helps as well as it creates a little bubble of melted plastic around the joint. This will melt a little more plastic than necessary, but that is fine. In fact, that's what you want. Let it stand for a minute or so (stuff dries pretty quickly), then with a sharp tip (I use a scribing tool) make small indentations around the base, simulating small weld beads. Works like a charm for those small little joints where you don't feel like breaking out the putty or similar method for replicating a weld bead.
hellbent11
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Posted: Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 01:19 PM UTC
I have a simple solution: Get some Tamiya Extra Thin cement

Sounds good. I'm pretty sure that my local store doesn't carry it. Do you know of anywhere it is available online?
jpzr
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Posted: Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 09:26 PM UTC

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I have a simple solution: Get some Tamiya Extra Thin cement

Sounds good. I'm pretty sure that my local store doesn't carry it. Do you know of anywhere it is available online?



Sorry, off the top of my head I don't know about online availability because my LHS carries it. You might see if they can order it since I'm sure they can order Tamiya products. Also, you can try the usual suspects online (Squadron, Great Models, Mission Models, etc.), I'm sure someone carries it. Definitely seek it out, though, because it is great stuff. You'll never want to go back to thicker stuff.
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:14 AM UTC

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I have a simple solution: Get some Tamiya Extra Thin cement

Sounds good. I'm pretty sure that my local store doesn't carry it. Do you know of anywhere it is available online?



www.greatmodels.com has it. Just go there and do a search for Tamiya extra thin cement.
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2005 - 07:42 AM UTC
I second the Tamiya extra thin cement. I used to use MEK as a glue, since it was as thin as water and glued the parts together bery quickly. But, as with all really good things there is usually a catch, and with MEK it is that it is very bad for you. Tamiya extra thin is almost as good, and not nearly as toxic. All you need to do is run the little aplicator brush around the join in the nadle a few times, this will soften and spread enough plastic to get a smooth join.

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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2005 - 07:59 AM UTC

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I have a simple solution: Get some Tamiya Extra Thin cement (best cement I've ever used) and apply a little more than you would to just normally bond parts, pressing down on the part helps as well as it creates a little bubble of melted plastic around the joint. This will melt a little more plastic than necessary, but that is fine. In fact, that's what you want. Let it stand for a minute or so (stuff dries pretty quickly), then with a sharp tip (I use a scribing tool) make small indentations around the base, simulating small weld beads. Works like a charm for those small little joints where you don't feel like breaking out the putty or similar method for replicating a weld bead.



Hi, hellbent11,

I second what Steve recommended. On top of that, you might consider using Gunze's liquid putty, application using toothpick, if the cement is not avaliable.

Cheers!
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:02 PM UTC
Try using wood glue, the white stuff...
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