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The New "Strykers"
Thunderthud
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 - 03:12 AM UTC
Ive seen these AFV's recently on the Military Chanel, and very curious about them .Does anyone know if there are any plastic models of them,as I hear there are many varients of them .Also are there any refrence sights i could visit to study them.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:04 AM UTC
No models of the Stryker out there. There are rumors that Tamiya, Dragon, and/or Trumpeter may come out with one in '06. We shall see.

For referance sites, check here. Scroll to the bottom for a bunch of links.
PantherF
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:48 AM UTC
I saw the program too and that'll be a cool kit! Especially the 105mm mounted gun!


Jeff
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 - 01:44 PM UTC

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No models of the Stryker out there. There are rumors that Tamiya, Dragon, and/or Trumpeter may come out with one in '06. We shall see.



My Christmas wish this year
drewgimpy
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 - 02:41 PM UTC
I have to say one thing about the stryker, it is much tougher than I thought it was. There is an old program on it and a new program on it showing how it has done in Iraq. If you haven't seen the new Iraq program there is a point where one of them is hit by a roadside bomb. It is flipped over on it's side due to the blast. The only injury was a broken arm and the vehilce was rolled back over and drove away. I don't know many if any vehicles that could do that.
Thunderthud
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 - 08:25 PM UTC
Yes thats the program i saw . That blast was something spectacular,and i'm glad to hear every one made it out of it ok !Awsome to hear the stryker drove away too.I'm not sure but I think the program said there are about 10 different varients. Now theres a mold worth investing in. Were do i by the stocks . :-) Thanks for the link Gino!
salt6
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 07:15 AM UTC
I've got video of one burning.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 07:33 AM UTC

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I've got video of one burning.



I'm sure you do. No vehicle is indestructible. M1A1/A2 tanks, M2A2 ODS Bradleys with ERA blocks, Buffalo anti-IED/mine vehicles, etc. have all been burned-up. The Strykers are no better or worse than any other armored car. They do the job they were designed to do.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 08:18 AM UTC

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They do the job they were designed to do.



That is true, and some perform better than their designers expected too.

Rockfall
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 08:26 AM UTC
I saw that program too on the military channel.

They look like really interesting vehicles and I would welcome seeing one in plastic form.

For the role they are being used in Iraq they seem to be very capable vehicles.

Not to sure I would be wanting to slug it out with anything big but I doubt that thats what they were designed for.

Ric_Cody
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 08:41 AM UTC
yes there are 10 variants
ICV Infantry Carrier Vehicle
RV Recon Vehicle
MEV Medical Evacuation Vehicle
CV Command Vehicle
MCV Mortar Carrier Vehicle, this one has two versions, the MC A has a dismounted 120mm Mortar, the MC B has a mounted 120mm SULTAM Recoiling Mortar.
FSV Fire Support Vehicle
ATGM Anti Tank Guided Missle Vehicle
ESV Engineer Squad Vehicle which now has a total of 4 attachable plows/rollers
NBCRV Nuclear Biological Chemicle Recon Vehicle
MGS Mobile Gun System

The MC A is being replaced by the MC B. The FSV has been upgraded with the Knight Package so that it can see targets at greater ranges and designate with the LDM Laser Designating Module.

The only two vehicles that have not been issued yet is the NBCRV which is finishing up testing and getting ready to issue. And the MGS which is still getting the kinks worked out of it. But should be online by this late summer early fall.

Ric
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 09:05 AM UTC
Actually they don't do the job they were designed for.

Too heavy, too tall and too expensive. Most importantly too lightly armored. All this for an interim vehicle. We could have bought vehicles currently fielded by other countries that use wheeled armor.
Rockfall
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 09:17 AM UTC
I think the MGS is the one that Canada is purchasing to replace the mothballed Leopards.

Not sure if thats a good idea or not.

Either way there sure is alot of controversy about these vehicles.

lavgnr
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 09:55 AM UTC

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We could have bought vehicles currently fielded by other countries that use wheeled armor.



These were designed, tested and fielded by Canada in 1999 (I was a gunner in the initial production testing), and by 2001 the US had bought 10 times the Canadian order. (edit-don't know an exact date or amount)

On that note, Canada has at least 4 variants to add to the list:
Infantry section carrier
command variant
TOW-under-armour (using turrets from CDN M113 TUA)
mortars.

If I've missed any of ours, or if someone has the proper names, pipe up!

Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:55 AM UTC

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I have to say one thing about the stryker, it is much tougher than I thought it was. There is an old program on it and a new program on it showing how it has done in Iraq. If you haven't seen the new Iraq program there is a point where one of them is hit by a roadside bomb. It is flipped over on it's side due to the blast. The only injury was a broken arm and the vehilce was rolled back over and drove away. I don't know many if any vehicles that could do that.



Yes I agree. This is an amazing fete in itself. I met a returning Bradley TC from Iraq last month. His story of
the incadent I walked away from was just as UNBELIEVABLE. He was lead vehicle, spotted a suspicous mark in the road. While radioing his second in line vehicle. The following Bradley drove over the area in Question. His suspiscion was correct, the watching enemy detinated the bomb. It blew the turret out of the chassis, and extricated both the TC and the asst. in the process. The TC and Asst. received shrapnel and burns on lower extremeties. The driver was uninjured.
Thats when you say WOW!!!! There really is a GOD.
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