I've been measuring and measuring, and I've concluded that I'll probably need a base measuring 15"x17". Aside from the obvious issues.. mostly weight and size... is there anything that I can use besides wood?
The dio will likely be mostly flat, so I've also considered using plastic, but can't seem to find a hunk that large. =)
Odd sizes too! Looks like I'll be doing a bit of woodwork...
Hosted by Darren Baker
help?
kaiser
United States
Joined: November 27, 2002
KitMaker: 11 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: November 27, 2002
KitMaker: 11 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 08:48 AM UTC
Eagle
Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
Joined: May 22, 2002
KitMaker: 4,082 posts
Armorama: 1,993 posts
Joined: May 22, 2002
KitMaker: 4,082 posts
Armorama: 1,993 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 08:52 AM UTC
Why don't or won't you just use the wood. Sure it's heavy, but it's also strong enough to hold the dio. Besides, it's not something you have to carry around all day .... #:-)
I'd settle for the wood after all...but hey...it's just my two Eurocents
I'd settle for the wood after all...but hey...it's just my two Eurocents
slodder
North Carolina, United States
Joined: February 22, 2002
KitMaker: 11,718 posts
Armorama: 7,138 posts
Joined: February 22, 2002
KitMaker: 11,718 posts
Armorama: 7,138 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 09:16 AM UTC
You have different types of wood. Ply wood, hard wood, laminant (MDF), go to DIY place and check out the different types of wood, some are lighter and will give you the strength you need. Some types of wood are lighter than others, pine vs. maple etc.
You do need the strength and Eagles right it won't be carried around much.
I just thought of a plastic that would be strong enough - we have a cutting board in the kitchen that is huge and fairly thin and very strong. You might check out a kitchen store.
You do need the strength and Eagles right it won't be carried around much.
I just thought of a plastic that would be strong enough - we have a cutting board in the kitchen that is huge and fairly thin and very strong. You might check out a kitchen store.
kaiser
United States
Joined: November 27, 2002
KitMaker: 11 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: November 27, 2002
KitMaker: 11 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 09:36 AM UTC
thanks guys, never done this before (as you can tell! )
a cutting board, thats a neat idea, even if its not used for this project. heh! ingenious.
a cutting board, thats a neat idea, even if its not used for this project. heh! ingenious.
kkeefe
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: May 12, 2002
KitMaker: 1,416 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: May 12, 2002
KitMaker: 1,416 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 09:50 AM UTC
My latest soon-to-be-completed project is sitting on a piece of 1-1/2" thick x 21" diameter piece of solid red oak. On top of that, there's close to 4 lbs of Sculptamold, white glue and other groundwork materials. I'd say close to 7 lbs total.
Believe me, I won't be moving this one around too often.
Thanks,
Kevin Keefe
Mortars in Miniature
Believe me, I won't be moving this one around too often.
Thanks,
Kevin Keefe
Mortars in Miniature
GSPatton
California, United States
Joined: September 04, 2002
KitMaker: 1,411 posts
Armorama: 609 posts
Joined: September 04, 2002
KitMaker: 1,411 posts
Armorama: 609 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 12:30 PM UTC
Start with a 1/4" sheet of hardboard like mason-nite. Seal with varnish and add an inch or more of closed cell foam. The hard foam used by florists. This will give you a solid base that id light and strong. You can carve the foam, add plaster, sculptamold or ground cover and there you go.
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2002 - 01:19 PM UTC
I dont know what you are building, but one thing I try to avoid is very square dios. They are hard to get a good balance in the overall effect (big corner areas are usually left bare) and need a special wide shelf to hold. I prefer to try and keep my dios a little longer and cut down on the overall width. It is easier to work at, easier to move, etc.
Just something you might consider before starting!
Just something you might consider before starting!
KFMagee
Texas, United States
Joined: January 08, 2002
KitMaker: 1,586 posts
Armorama: 1,225 posts
Joined: January 08, 2002
KitMaker: 1,586 posts
Armorama: 1,225 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2002 - 07:42 PM UTC
While not a great idea for a "huge" diorama base, I use plaster and plastic lids to create some really unusual bases. Take a look at the Digital Diamonds article on the subject... lots of fun, very cheap, and adds a lot of interest to the finished project! Here is the link:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/79
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/79
Holocaust59
United Kingdom
Joined: December 05, 2002
KitMaker: 113 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: December 05, 2002
KitMaker: 113 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 09:09 AM UTC
MDF is a good choice, as it's cheap! But if you are cutting it, be sure to wear a mask as the dust is harmful. Another cheap solution is hardboard with strengthening battens underneath in an X shape. The textured side of hardboard is also a good key for applying filler to for the contours.
Eagle
Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
Joined: May 22, 2002
KitMaker: 4,082 posts
Armorama: 1,993 posts
Joined: May 22, 2002
KitMaker: 4,082 posts
Armorama: 1,993 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 09:11 AM UTC
Quoted Text
MDF is a good choice, as it's cheap! But if you are cutting it, be sure to wear a mask as the dust is harmful
After sawing and / or cutting, you'd better watch the sides too, since it can be as sharp as knives !
WeWillHold
Wisconsin, United States
Joined: April 17, 2002
KitMaker: 2,314 posts
Armorama: 1,905 posts
Joined: April 17, 2002
KitMaker: 2,314 posts
Armorama: 1,905 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 09:32 AM UTC
This may sound odd, but I've always used "pink" contruction styrofoam sheet for my dio bases. It comes in several thicknesses (1", 2" etc.), cuts to any shape with just about any type of knife or saw, its sturdy, glues easily (i.e. to make several thicknesses, or, for gluing dirt, debris to it), its lightweight, and easy to shape and/or punch holes in to "plant" trees, shrubs. etc.
I cover the exposed edges with dark brown acryllic paint.
If construction stryofoam isn't available, try using the styrofoam packing pieces that package electronic items, tv's vcr's, etc. Its pretty sturdy stuff also.
I cover the exposed edges with dark brown acryllic paint.
If construction stryofoam isn't available, try using the styrofoam packing pieces that package electronic items, tv's vcr's, etc. Its pretty sturdy stuff also.
Ralf
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Joined: June 20, 2002
KitMaker: 170 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Joined: June 20, 2002
KitMaker: 170 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 05:07 AM UTC
There is a very elegant way to do it: By using a pin board (You can get it very cheap in Your local paper-store) and styrofoam. Advantage: The whole construction is very light at the end.
I found this hint at: http://www.modellbau-soltys.de/hints/diobase-a.shtml#
I found this hint at: http://www.modellbau-soltys.de/hints/diobase-a.shtml#