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Kahuna
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 04:13 AM UTC

Hi all!
How can I create the moist mud that could be found in trenches during the autumn?
I glued some sand, but what should I do next in order to make it nice and "moist", so it would look real?

Thanks a lot!

Ori
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 04:28 AM UTC

Try a coat of ---"Clear-fix"---if it avaiable ---makes it look wet---or light spray of varnish
Used it on my beach--de-liniate the wet/dry sand/shingle--worked nice
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 04:32 AM UTC

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Hi all!
How can I create the moist mud that could be found in trenches during the autumn?
I glued some sand, but what should I do next in order to make it nice and "moist", so it would look real?

Thanks a lot!

Ori



Hello Ori,

I am going to try to mix some of the base powder that I will be using as the base colour with a little cooking oil or the thinnest oil I can get hold of. If it works I will let you know as soon as I find out.

I realise it may not be the most sensible of recommendations but if I don't try, I will not find out if it works or not.

Des
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 05:12 AM UTC
You could try mixing an acrylic 'mud' colour with Future (gloss acrylic clear) and painting it on.

In case you don't know what Future is...

http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

You may be able to find it..


Martyn
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 01:35 PM UTC
Thank a lot!
I understood I can use pigments somehow... am I right?
What should I mix them with?

Des, it sounds interesting, although I can't imagine how this is going to stick…?

Cheers!

Ori

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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 03:31 PM UTC
Pigments can be mixed with a bit of water to make them spreadable for more of a wash application. I use artists pastels and mix them with water in a litle cup then apply with an old brush. Pastels will be a dull/dry coloration so you'd want to add a gloss coat on top. If they don't stick at all you can add a bit of PVA glue to the mix.

I have never used MIG pigments or anything like that so they may be mixed differently.
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 03:37 PM UTC
pigmnents can be used with an acrylic resin base - such as MIGS , or other and with some white gluea also in the mix u make nice mud. Gloss varnish can be used in the mix also but u ll need some over work with it also


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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2006 - 02:51 AM UTC
Try mixing baking soda with whatever color paint you're using for the mud till you get the consistancy you want.

Art
Kahuna
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2006 - 03:40 AM UTC
Hmm... Thanks a lot!
Art, as for the glossy look of it – would regular gloss cote do the trick?
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2006 - 05:34 AM UTC


The mud in this pic was made by mixing sand, acrylic gel media, and PVA glue. It was then painted with burnt umber acrylic paint mixed with a bit of gloss media, then drybrushed with burnt umber lightened with a buff acrylic paint.

HTH

Edit: I forgot the plaster of paris! OMG! Its plaster, sand, PVA, Gel media and Brown acrylic paint!

Sorry for any confusion.
PanzerEd
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:51 PM UTC
Des, it sounds interesting, although I can't imagine how this is going to stick…?

Cheers!

Ori

I haven't tried it yet Ori. I like to try different things out that I can find around the house as my time is limited and so is my budget and equipment until I get my tool and accessories stock built up.

I will let you know the results of my attempts!!

Des
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 02:48 AM UTC

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Hmm... Thanks a lot!
Art, as for the glossy look of it – would regular gloss cote do the trick?


Probably would. You could also brush on some white glue after it drys. Or use gloss paint when you mix. The gloss on the dio pic is from overspraying the whole thing with polyurethane.

Art
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 03:16 AM UTC

I have used several methods to create mud. The first involves ground coffee being mixed with white glue, water, and acrylic paint. Static grass, sand and rocks can also be added. Another method includes mixes acrylic modelling putty (I think thats the name) with sand, small rocks, and pigments. Both can be 'glossified' with regular clear gloss.

Daniel
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