I have had problems with MM acryls, particularly Sandgelb. I have had two jars that came to me way, way to thick and one that was too thin. I have used MM airbrush thinner to thin out the jars that are too thick (which makes it glossy) but what can be done for paints that are too thin.
Does anyone else run into this with MM acryls?
Just curious
Cheers
Branden
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Problems with MM Acryls
blouie
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 07:15 AM UTC
Mech-Maniac
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 08:13 AM UTC
I've used MM acrylics once, and was pleased with the results, have you stirred to make sure that all the pigment that "gunks" up on the botttom is mixed in as well?
Buzz
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 08:37 AM UTC
possibly you could have gotten exchanged merchandise, did you buy it at a hobby shop?
beemerfan
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 09:01 AM UTC
If it's not stirred well, you lose the flat and it is too thin. I buy bags of wood coffee stirring sticks that work well and are disposable, I also add four or five metal bb's to each bottle so that I can do a good job shaking the paint while I'm doing the rest of the kit. My issue with MM acrylics is that they don't stick. Masking is not an option. Because of this, I've started to drift towards Tamiya colors. They seem to "bite" better. I used lacquers and enamels for a long time but the ability to use oil washes and the health considerations regarding solvent vapors have changed my habits.
blouie
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 09:05 AM UTC
Shain, I love MM acrylics, but it seems that with this color in particular I keep getting bad batches. All of the other colors I have are just fine.
Buzz- Welcome to armorama!! I bought some from LHS and some online.
Like I said, I have bought other colors from the same sources and haven't had a problem.
Just throwin it out there.
Cheers
Branden
Buzz- Welcome to armorama!! I bought some from LHS and some online.
Like I said, I have bought other colors from the same sources and haven't had a problem.
Just throwin it out there.
Cheers
Branden
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 09:17 AM UTC
Branden I feel for you. I have never gotten a sandgelb MM acrylic that was good. I have learned if I want to use that color to use their enamel version. I have never had a problem with it. Cheers Kevin
keenan
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 06:22 PM UTC
That is odd. I buy it in 12 bottle lots over the internets and never had a bad bottle. Of course I have 12 bottles on the way now and all 12 will probably be bad...
Shaun
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 07:33 PM UTC
I found that a way to overcome the difficulty in stirring paints was to make an L shaped tool from a piece of brass rod, which fits into my Mini-Drill and use this on a power setting that does not throw the paint around the room and allow it to do the stirring. It works very effeectively and helps to save those containers where paint pigment has settled into a lump that resists the wooden stirring rods......Just remember start and stop the drill/Dremel with the tool still in the container.
Wash it in some thinners, wipe dry and its ready for the next use.
I hope this helps I have found it a simple but effectivre method of helping in my hobby.
Regards,
John
Wash it in some thinners, wipe dry and its ready for the next use.
I hope this helps I have found it a simple but effectivre method of helping in my hobby.
Regards,
John
KellyZak
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 08:04 PM UTC
Same here, I have a bottle of the sandgelb, and it was so thick, not even my electric mixer would do anything! Also the same issue with one of the fleshtones...way too thick. Don't know what the issue is with them, I usually stay away from MM Acryls and use Tamiya, craft paint and when I'm out of town, try and stock up on Vallejo paints.
propboy44256
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 09:49 PM UTC
Mine was to thick as well...WOW I thought it was only me
propboy44256
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 09:55 PM UTC
My gosh shaun, thats a lot of paint!!!, how many models do you do a year?, I
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That is odd. I buy it in 12 bottle lots over the internets and never had a bad bottle. Of course I have 12 bottles on the way now and all 12 will probably be bad...
Shaun
keenan
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 10:58 PM UTC
Johnny,
Not that many but I usually plan on a new bottle per model. I have ruined too many otherwise good models by scimping on the paint, ie trying to use what little was left in the bottle and getting it to go through the airbrush. Now I set those 1/3rd full bottles aside and use them for dry brushing, detail painting, etc.
At 2.35 a bottle the paint is too cheap to risk ruining a kit.
Shaun
Not that many but I usually plan on a new bottle per model. I have ruined too many otherwise good models by scimping on the paint, ie trying to use what little was left in the bottle and getting it to go through the airbrush. Now I set those 1/3rd full bottles aside and use them for dry brushing, detail painting, etc.
At 2.35 a bottle the paint is too cheap to risk ruining a kit.
Shaun