This topic started out in the Armor/AFV category and ran kinda long.
The discussion was about windshield wiper patterns on vehicles and what was accurate. Some folks thought painted patterns look good. Others believed windows do not get that bad, or would be cleaned by the crew before they get to this extent.
Here are some definitive pics of a HMMV after a day of off-road driving. (Lucky for me I am a 'trainer' and get to take out our newbies out on our course. )
I think this may end the argument and provide some inspiration!?
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My poor attempt at this technique:
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WIndshield Wiper Marks Revisited
woltersk
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 07:58 AM UTC
spooky6
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 09:15 AM UTC
Keith, the argument wasn't about modern windscreen wipers. No argument there, all you gotta do is look at your car after a dusty day. The discussion was on WW2-era vehicles, most of which didn't have water jets to clean the windscreen with.
woltersk
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2006 - 04:53 AM UTC
Dave,
We seem to be arguing the same point.
But much of the original thread
led me to believe many feel that the technique is not accurate on any vehicle.
Gunnie stated:
And he did not differentiate between modern and WWII eras.
And the pics posted by Martin L. (Foxbat31) didn't show the wiper marks as prominently as my photos here (if they show up).
I just wanted to add some reference. Also--the wiper marks on these HMMVs was made without the aid of the washer fluid--just good quality wipers and really watery mud.
We seem to be arguing the same point.
But much of the original thread
led me to believe many feel that the technique is not accurate on any vehicle.
Gunnie stated:
Quoted Text
If you wish to model the wiper marks - then do so and have fun. I don't quite agree with the sentiments about the "realism" of rendering the effect. The concept of "realism" in miniature scale is highly subjective. What matters most in the end is that you like and are satisified with your results.
I feel that the vogue "wash and drybrush" technique is grossly inaccurate and inappropriate - but certainly don't want to squash someone's desire to render it on their model. It's just one method a modeler can use to express their views of the subject matter in miniature. Some subtle applications are done very well and enhance the model, and I appreciate it for that.
Gunnie
And he did not differentiate between modern and WWII eras.
And the pics posted by Martin L. (Foxbat31) didn't show the wiper marks as prominently as my photos here (if they show up).
I just wanted to add some reference. Also--the wiper marks on these HMMVs was made without the aid of the washer fluid--just good quality wipers and really watery mud.