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Plastic or Rubber tracks??
Whiskey
Texas, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 10:15 AM UTC
I just started building my first tank,the Revell 1/72 M2-A2 Bradley,which happens to have plastic tracks.My other tank kit I have at the moment has rubber tracks.So I was wondering whcih do you guys think is better and easier to work with,rubber or plastic?
Holocaust59
United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 10:32 AM UTC
I think using plastic tracks at 1/72nd scale is probably best. You have to remember that you are simulating seeing something from a fair way off in the smaller scales. Most people take this into account by using lighter than actual colours and similary you should bear in mind that there is a limit to the amount of detail you can make out on a tank thirty yards away from you. The most telling thing with rubber tracks is not really the material, since you can paint it to look like metal, it's the way it tends to not follow the roadwheel contours in an entirely realistic way as it is essentially always trying to straighten itself out. This always looks worst at the front on the bottom where in reality the tracks are generally under a great deal of tension. You can get round this to a certain extent by glueing it to the roadwheels in several places although sometimes it's a real b*st*rd to get them to stick (apply it with a toothpick). Covering them in 'mud' is another way round it of course.
Then again, if you are trying to create a show-stopper and after market replacements are available, you should use them. The main criteria should always be 'am I happy with it'? If the answer is yes, then that's good enough.
After all, no-one is going to die if your tracks don't look like you've somehow managed to shrink the real thing!
Then again, if you are trying to create a show-stopper and after market replacements are available, you should use them. The main criteria should always be 'am I happy with it'? If the answer is yes, then that's good enough.
After all, no-one is going to die if your tracks don't look like you've somehow managed to shrink the real thing!
Sabot
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 10:54 AM UTC
Holocaust59 is right. In 1/72 scale, plastic link & length tracks are best. Stretching vinyl tracks over such petite parts as 1/72 scale running gear was always a big problem. The sprocket or idler wheel was always breaking off. It was also difficult getting the small scale vinyl track to sag. Additionally, vinyl tracks normally did not have any detail on the inner surface of the track and if there was any type of twist or malformation in the vinyl, the weight of the kit was insufficient to flatten out the kinked spot.
It's also easier to glue the plastic tracks to the running gear.
Remember when gluing the tracks to the suspension, start gluing the individual links to the sprocket first. Then work around the road wheels and idler wheels.
It's also easier to glue the plastic tracks to the running gear.
Remember when gluing the tracks to the suspension, start gluing the individual links to the sprocket first. Then work around the road wheels and idler wheels.
Whiskey
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 03:15 PM UTC
Cool beans fellas.Thx! (:-)
lestweforget
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:03 PM UTC
i agree, plastic is better for 1:72, but when you get to 1:35 i find rubber to be easier to work with, thats my 2 bobs worth, cheers
lestweforget
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:05 PM UTC
while im at it, has anyone ever worked with metal tracks, i have once, with a t88
Tanks46
New Jersey, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:22 PM UTC
Capt. Zach - How are you doing? Butch Cassidy Tanks46 here. I just happened to finish the PST JS1 which has plastic tracks. Although the project and the tracks came out well for the first time they were a little tricky to emplace. However they look a lot better than most vinyl tracks in 1/72 or 1/76th scale. The plastic tracks weathered up a lot nicer. They give a more accurate picture of the tracks. Anyway good luck with your Bradley. My next project will be either the Italieri Merkava 1 or Fujimi's Type 61 Jap MBT. The tracks are plastic on both - practice makes perfect!
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