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what paint do you use for washes
died
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 08:46 PM UTC
can you just use any paint you want for washes. some peaple use paint(dont know what one) with a lot of water and some soap(for the dishes you know). and other people use oil paint 10% with white spirit 90%.
what one is the best to use and what paint do i have to use??

thanx a lot died
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 08:49 PM UTC
I personally use oils - I like the coverage and the work time you get.

I have used Tamiya's in the past - they were OK and functional.

I think it boils down to what you have available and what you're comfortable using and mixing.
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 08:50 PM UTC
I prefer to use the oil method. I think it cleans up easier, and it also takes longer to completely dry. When I apply a wash with acrylics, it will leave pigments behind unless you wipe it up really quickly.
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 08:52 PM UTC
Winsor and Newton oils thinned with odorless paint thinner.

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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 08:53 PM UTC
thanx so i have to use oil with white spirit,

thanks for the help
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 10:24 PM UTC
Well actually Diederik:

To answer your original question a little more, you
understand you can make washes using either
emamels with Mineral Spirits (Is that what you're
calling White Spirits? I think it is) or Terpintine or
Terpenoid. Or you can start with Acrylics and use
water to make a wash. You mentioned liquid dish
soap and a very small amount of it does help the
washes, and even the acrylic flow over the plastic
a little more smoothly, when that is necessary. And
of course, the final medium that Scott and several
of the other mentioned was oil paints. You can
make washes with oils using Min. Spirits, Terpentine,
Terpenoid, or a large group of liquid products that
have little or no smell to them. Of those three main
paints mentioned above, oil is probably the most
forgiving (and usually the most exensive but one
tube will last for many years) and will let you correct
mistakes more easily than the other twol. Now, you
understand this is just MY opinion. A lot of other
modelers would show you wonderful wash painted
figs or models using the enamel or acrylics. As was
evidenced today when Costas Major Goose posted
that wonder fig done in acrylics. Hope this helps
more
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:30 AM UTC
Well...

Ya can use lots of things for washes.... you can use different paints and everything from water, to vinegar, to Future, to White spirit, to enamel thinners for a carrier...

https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/782

I am curious to try acrylic paint with future...

Martyn
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:57 AM UTC
I use both acylics and oils for my washes.

Cheers
Cliff
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:58 AM UTC
Just to add to the confusion ...

You can also make washes with pastel powder in water or alcohol. These are tricky and require a lot of trial and error to make them work. I've had both stunning success and heartbreaking failures ... it pays to test any wash before "going for it."
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 12:24 PM UTC
hey

i used turps with my enamel paints put it on the model ant the base colour just came off revelling the paslic colour


cheers
matt
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:52 PM UTC

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hey

i used turps with my enamel paints put it on the model ant the base colour just came off revelling the paslic colour



Sounds like the base colour (also enamels?) wasn't dry yet.
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:48 PM UTC
A tip to remember is to make the paint you make your washes from different to the base coat.

So if the base is Acrylic paint use enamels and oils for the washes.

If the base is enamel then use oil and acrylics for the washes.

As Bob said pastel chalks and water also work.

Cheers
Cliff
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:59 PM UTC

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A tip to remember is to make the paint you make your washes from different to the base coat.



Cliff, I've always used enamel+turpentine washes over enamel on figs and not had any problem. I don't, however, work the wash around or attempt to shade anything. Just drop the wash in and leave it to dry.
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:20 PM UTC

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A tip to remember is to make the paint you make your washes from different to the base coat.



Cliff, I've always used enamel+turpentine washes over enamel on figs and not had any problem. I don't, however, work the wash around or attempt to shade anything. Just drop the wash in and leave it to dry.



A figure is a bit smaller then most vehicles and I always brush my wash on as in some instances I am not covering the whole vehicle. In this case the base will almost always lift, or melt a bit, if the same type of paint is used.

So until you get used to what does what with washes it is better to follow my tip.

Everyone probably has their own little ways of doing washes in much the same way as everyone has their brand of paint etc, so it is better to start out with a 'safer' method until you get a little bit more experienced.

Cheers
Cliff
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