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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 03:51 PM UTC
Need some Tamiya equivalent colors for these Humbrol paints:

115 Russian Blue
28 Camouflage Grey

I checked the FAQ and Answers thread and it seems like the Colour Cross Reference link has some website-related errors, so I can't check the equiv color there.
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:23 PM UTC
Hi there Ralph...

Maybe this can help.
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_humbrol.htm
Courtesy of IPMS Stockholm.

028 Camouflage Grey (Humbrol) - XF-55 Deck Tan (Tamiya)
115 Russian Blue (Humbrol) - ?? Apparently this colour from Humbrol is discontinued.

HTH.
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:50 PM UTC
Hi Ralph

What are you building? Might be able to help you better if we knew. XF-55 isn't a grey colour, so there's something wrong somewhere...
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:50 PM UTC
Waw thanks!


Quoted Text

028 Camouflage Grey (Humbrol) - XF-55 Deck Tan (Tamiya)



Weird. How come grey becomes tan? :-) :-) :-)

BTW, are Testors the same as Model Master enamels? IIRC, MM is a product of Testors right?
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:56 PM UTC
I can find no conversion for russian blue to Tamiya you will have to mix it yourself by eye and good judgement.

In the last Humbrol Folder they gave a mix method for this discontinued paint which is -

Humbrol 34 x 37 drops
Humbrol 25 x 10 drops
Humbrol 150 x 6 drops
Humborl 80 x 3 drops

Should equal russian blue.

Regards,

John
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:56 PM UTC
Hi Drader! Am building this ICM Yak-7B The interior calls in for a camouflage grey (Testors #1728/ Humbrol #28). Also, the underside calls in for a Russian Blue (Testors #1723/Humbrol #115).

I don't have any colored picture references so I cannot even guess a good mix.
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:58 PM UTC
Hi John! Perhaps a pic of any aircraft that spots a Russian blue and camouflage grey would atleast give me an idea on what they look like. Humbrols here are sooo rare :-)
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:03 PM UTC
I would guess a web search for soviet aircraft pictures may be of help, but I will look in some reference books later and see what I might have there.

John
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:04 PM UTC
I know about costs but I have thought that it might be worth searching the hannants site to see what they might do in their own colours and then look to convert to testors or Polly S etc.

John
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:08 PM UTC
Humbrol 64 Light aircraft grey is a good approximation for the soviet cockpit colour.

David
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:14 PM UTC
Using the testors colour number that you said and using it to search on the paintchart address in an earlier reply gives this result

John

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorserver/showcolor.asp?fs=36375

Similar to US Ghost Grey
Drader
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:44 PM UTC
This chart of WW2 Soviet colours is cross-referenced to FS equivalents, which should help

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_soviet.htm

And there are some camoflage schemes here

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/Camouflage/index.php

Suggest you look at XF54 for the grey and XF23 for the blue.
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:55 PM UTC
Thanks a million guys. Much appreciated
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