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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2006 - 07:14 AM UTC
How do you make snow
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2006 - 07:39 AM UTC
There are many methods, but I would check out the small shop's snow coat. AJ gives a nice tut on using it too.

http://www.smallshopeu.com/
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2006 - 08:21 AM UTC
I prefer Woodland Scenics brand, Snow. It is made of microballoons, minute styrene globes or spheres. They look great. Apply with some pump hairspray. Pump on the spray then sprinkle on the snow adn let dry. Reapply till you get as much snow as you want.

Looks like this when done.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 05:03 AM UTC
I'm with Gino on this one. The Woodland Scenics stuff looks great, and I was able to buy darn near a lifetime supply of it for $7-$8 at my LHS. It's easy to apply layers of the stuff until you get the desired depth, and it still remains just workable enough to put tracks or footprints in it after a coat of hairspray. As Gino's dio shows, it looks great when you're done.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:33 PM UTC
I haven't tried THIS
method yet, but it looks worth to try.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 05:55 PM UTC
Try with bakin´soda and microballoons and salt. I´ts works in samll areas
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 07:58 PM UTC
I wouldn't use Baking Soda or any other food item. With time it will yellow/discolor and can be eaten by bugs. I have had bad experiences wit it. Microballoons is the best way.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 08:10 PM UTC
What an interesting method of using the baking soda....
Gino, I wonder if climate areas may have an effect on the baking soda? I've done a couple little dios and I've used baking soda on both, secured with just white glue and water, and a layer or two of hairspray, and roughly five years later they're still white, and no bugs what so ever..being as you're in California, it's much warmer year round than up here.

Haven't tried the microballoons, but again there's always something new to try out,
Myself, well I just used a lot of sanded white tile grout for my snow, seems to work for me, once it starts to cure, you can go ahead an add tracks, footprints etc..
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 08:53 PM UTC
Personally I like to use the Tech Star snow, but I am looking into the Woodland Scenic stuff.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:11 PM UTC

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....Gino, I wonder if climate areas may have an effect on the baking soda? I've done a couple little dios and I've used baking soda on both, secured with just white glue and water, and a layer or two of hairspray, and roughly five years later they're still white, and no bugs what so ever..being as you're in California, it's much warmer year round than up here...



Could be. I used to live in Florida, Texas, and Georgia before too. It was hot and humid in those locales.



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Personally I like to use the Tech Star snow,



Never heard of this brand. What is it?
Salvo
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:48 PM UTC
I used the snow from Gamesworkshop on one of my model bases. I was pleased with the way it turned out. It was good for modeling a dusting, but not sure how it would look for large amounts of accumulation.



Cheers,
Salvo

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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:55 PM UTC
GW and WS Snow are basically the same product. They look exactly the same. I have used both. I think most GW and WS stuff is the same or similar. Wonder if they are related companies, one side for railroaders, the other side for gamers? If you continue to apply it and build it up, it works fine. For large banks and drifts, use styrofoam cut to the basic shape and then cover with a few layers of the Snow. Comes out great.

Good looking dio. Looks cold.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:12 PM UTC
Marble dust. Even glitters like real snow.
mj
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 06:44 AM UTC
Woodland Scenics for me. Easy to use, looks great, and very affordable.


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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:43 AM UTC
WS stuff is great and cheap.If you want to add some sparkle to it add in something like Heki snow(#3343?I don't read German so I'm not sure if this is the correct part number) or Hudson and Allan snow.The last two do cost more but if you add just a little on top of the WS snow a bag will last two or three life times!

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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:19 PM UTC
I've used baking soda and haven't had any problems. I particularly like it for a "packed snow" effect like when snow gets in the rims of roadwheels. I make a "cement " of white glue and baking saoda. After I get it where I want it I add an extra sprinkle of the baking soda and tamp it down. Can you get that same packed snow effect with the WS stuff? If so I'd sure be open to try it as I know it works for a lot of people.
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 02:15 PM UTC
There has beena bunch of great answers to your problem. Snow is a very favorite effect of mine also .

some recent works i have done with it :









My way is this.

I prepare a mix of Microbaloons and Mineral filler for CA glue (this is a whitish granule material that is used for big gaps filling together withCA glue, sold in all craftshops) which adds to the sparkling effect of the snow.

I spray the base that iwant to add the snow - without any previous white glue applicance , directly with Talens Pastels fixative, and then i pour over a fair amount of the mix i have preperad.

Most of it will stay in place . i blow pretty gently and take some of the leftover away. then i spray from a bigger distance a bit of the fixative again and poyr more snow mix tothe spots i think is needed or in spots i need a specific effect.

A last distanced spray over with few of the fixative finishes the construction . Takes no more than 5 minutes and its pretty good.

PLease mask your wooden base before and use a mask for u also , as this light snow mix flies and will stick on the base withthe fixative ans also will get inside you which is no good at all.

I have worked years before with white glue mixes and marble dust and also soda , and sugar stuff. But lately i have used this way in 6-7 figures and i am pretty pleased.

So just giving u an idea.


have fun and dont hesitate to contact me for anything if you think i can be of further assistance

Costas
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