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Preset Airbrush Handles
matt
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 01:05 AM UTC
What's the Advantage to them???
matt
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 01:43 AM UTC
Like on the Iwata HP-C plus (Optional for the HP-C)
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 01:49 AM UTC
It basicly preforms the same function as the little screw on the Badger 150. It allows you to set the pull back on the needle to a certain place, so everytime to pull back it will only go that far thus your lines will remaine somewhat the same as long as distance, etc are the same.
On the 150 it worked in reverse, holding the needle back at a set distance from the tip, thus insuring the same spray.
In very simple terms it makes it act like a single action airbrush, set the needle and spray the same, just by depressing the button.
On the 150 it worked in reverse, holding the needle back at a set distance from the tip, thus insuring the same spray.
In very simple terms it makes it act like a single action airbrush, set the needle and spray the same, just by depressing the button.
jpzr
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 01:56 AM UTC
Dave summed it up nicely. I have one for my HP-B and my Eclipse CS (it is inter-changeable) and I love it, especially when doing detail/camo work. It keeps my occasionally spastic trigger finger from sending out a paintjob-ruining blast of paint. I recommend it, as well as a detail crown, for anyone considering an Iwata purchase.
matt
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:13 AM UTC
OK, What about the Cut away on the HP-C plus?
Braystaff
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:39 AM UTC
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OK, What about the Cut away on the HP-C plus?
Good question. I too would like to know.
I've a Revell Flexi and it has a cut away that allows access to the locking nut for the needle. Why? All it allows you to do is release the needle nut meaning the needle is functionless. But you can’t do any more that that – you can’t take the needle out or adjust the trigger pressure without removing the handle. Seems pointless to me, but there maybe a reason I don’t know about.
garand_guy
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:52 AM UTC
Showing my ignorance here...
What's a "detail crown"?
Thanks!
Mike
What's a "detail crown"?
Thanks!
Mike
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:35 AM UTC
The only reason I have found for the cut away handle, and this is just my experience with it, it allows me to remove the end cap/preset thingy, then loosen the needle, and be able to remove my needle for cleaning without totally disassembling the airbrush, and changing my plunger spring tension. I'm sure there are other reasons though..... :-)
Have no idea on a Revell Flexi --- never seen one or used one.... sorry
The "detail crown" or "Crown Cap" is the end that looks like a crown, not the more normal end cone. it allows you to get closer to your work without splattering or webfooting.
Have no idea on a Revell Flexi --- never seen one or used one.... sorry
The "detail crown" or "Crown Cap" is the end that looks like a crown, not the more normal end cone. it allows you to get closer to your work without splattering or webfooting.
Braystaff
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:44 AM UTC
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The only reason I have found for the cut away handle, and this is just my experience with it, it allows me to remove the end cap/preset thingy, then loosen the needle, and be able to remove my needle for cleaning without totally disassembling the airbrush, and changing my plunger spring tension. I'm sure there are other reasons though.....
Got it.
First thing it says in the manual is “do not pull needle through the back of the airbrush”
Cheers
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:49 AM UTC
You should push your needles out through the front after removing your nozzle...... reason is the dried paint/paint buildup on the needle can score or tear your inner bearing/seal.
jpzr
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 05:14 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Showing my ignorance here...
What's a "detail crown"?
Thanks!
Mike
Perhaps I should have called it a crown cap or detail cap. It is an air cap (the little part that surrounds the tip/needle assembly) that has cutouts, making it look a bit like a crown in profile. These cutuots allow the air to escape around the sides rather than blow back onto the nozzle impeding airflow. This allows you to spray much closer to the surface providing a tighter spray pattern.
jpzr
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 05:15 AM UTC
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You should push your needles out through the front after removing your nozzle...... reason is the dried paint/paint buildup on the needle can score or tear your inner bearing/seal.
Wow, that's a good idea. Never thought of that, thanks!
Also, I've never figured out much use for the cutaway handle that came with the Eclipse either. Just as you say, all it allows is totally disengaging the needle.
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 06:25 AM UTC
:-) :-) Took me a while to figure it out...... The only thing I could think of, was making it simplier, and not having to figgs with the spring tension on the needle plunger every time I took it apart. Once it's set it's set. :-) :-)
Of course I'm sure there is a much more techincal reason for it...... but I'm not a techincal type of guy.... simple is as simple does.... keep it simple..... :-) :-)
Of course I'm sure there is a much more techincal reason for it...... but I'm not a techincal type of guy.... simple is as simple does.... keep it simple..... :-) :-)
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