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Burnt out M113
afv_rob
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 09:55 PM UTC
I decided to re-use and old M113 I have and as its a bit smashed up make it into a burnt out vehicle. Has anyone got any pics of knoeck out M113's in the nam and also what is the likely hood of an M113 being knocked out during Tet and simply bulldozed into the side of the road-or is leaving KO'ed vehicles about not good for moral.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 10:49 PM UTC
Hi Rob
Here's one :
Here's another one :
If you have some time to spare, you can browse through the photo albums you can find here :
http://www.hotkey.net.au/%7Emarshalle/images/index1.html and you may find interesting pics...I know it's Australian stuff, but destroyed M113s look alike whatever the owner....
HTH
Frenchy
Here's one :
Here's another one :
If you have some time to spare, you can browse through the photo albums you can find here :
http://www.hotkey.net.au/%7Emarshalle/images/index1.html and you may find interesting pics...I know it's Australian stuff, but destroyed M113s look alike whatever the owner....
HTH
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 01:30 AM UTC
wooah! I think mine needs a bit more damage, all ive done is create and RPG hole in the side and show heavy rust and burning on the side, do you reckon the whole engine would explode from an internal fire/rpg round to the side?
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:03 AM UTC
Well, I'm no expert Rob but I think that the engine is still there on the last picture. This picture illustrated the fire hazard after hitting a mine or taking a RPG hit....
Talking about other M113 users here's one from Israel :
Maybe one wrecked M113 like this would fit the bill....
Frenchy
Talking about other M113 users here's one from Israel :
Maybe one wrecked M113 like this would fit the bill....
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:06 AM UTC
Rob,
If I'm not mistaken, the M113's had an aluminum hull, so there would be no rust after the fire like on a steel hulled vehicle.
If I'm not mistaken, the M113's had an aluminum hull, so there would be no rust after the fire like on a steel hulled vehicle.
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:12 AM UTC
the M-113 is aluminum - so no rust. Other than than the blacken areas the rest would look ashen grey/white.
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:16 AM UTC
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Rob,
If I'm not mistaken, the M113's had an aluminum hull, so there would be no rust after the fire like on a steel hulled vehicle.
Ditto Jesse ! Fire can even melt some parts of the APC, like the roadwheels (just like on the IDF M113 picture....)
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 04:23 AM UTC
Good photos Frenchy. I remember these vehicles. This was just outside the south gate of our base camp. This was in the beginning of the TET Offensive of 68.
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:20 PM UTC
Dear Rob
Well to be more complete depending of the fire,
the hull will melt for sure only stuff remains will be the engine of the m113
i put more pics below
i hope this will be usefull
Well to be more complete depending of the fire,
the hull will melt for sure only stuff remains will be the engine of the m113
i put more pics below
i hope this will be usefull
afv_rob
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 03:28 PM UTC
Thanks for the help everyone, you're all right the M113 is aluminium-damnit I just covered mine in rust not thinking. From what I can see the whole damn thing seems to fall apart, im guessing that al the paint would melt of revealling bare alluminium underneath. Looks like mine will needa lot of work!
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Posted: Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 04:14 PM UTC
Yeap
Just an idea for you, try to burn a coke can to see on small scale how Alu will behave and find nice piece of melt alu to include. The Mp is about 660 C you can melted easily.
Please share the results.
Real stuff always better.
Seb
Just an idea for you, try to burn a coke can to see on small scale how Alu will behave and find nice piece of melt alu to include. The Mp is about 660 C you can melted easily.
Please share the results.
Real stuff always better.
Seb