Hello everyone..
I started building at almost the same time as this site started and have watched it grow, change and evolve into what I personally think is the best model building site on the internet.
I'm sure I speak for a lot of people when I say change to something you enjoy so much can seem a little threating, but as I've watched the site come into its own and how much better its become over the years, then I say to lend our support and see what happens after the changes start. This just may be the start of the World wide web Armorama domination....
and who knows someday there might be Armorama Club Chapters all over the world right up there with IPMS and AMPS and such......
:-)
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Delbert
#073
Joined: October 05, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 07:14 AM UTC
Sabot
Joined: December 18, 2001
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KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 07:55 AM UTC
It will be nice to see Armorama get back to its roots.
skipper
Joined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,182 posts
Armorama: 761 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 05:36 PM UTC
Although Jim is the Master, I am the Commander and I must admit that, like centurys ago, I am going on uncharted waters!
The good thing is that I know I won't fell out of the world and that the crew trust me and the other members involved - the spirit of Warships is great and it will remain so.
This is growing and letting go the "wet part" of armorama... set sail a Discover a new world.
(actually, it will not be new, but different
and bigger)
If you visit modelshipwrights right now, it will look scarce in content, almost naked, but as Jim stated, we need some time to make it full spead ahead!
So guys... If you ever feel the urge to make a warship, like some of you have once in a while, drop by and you will not feel strangers - as usual
Thanks all, for the support
Rui Matos (aka Skipper)
The good thing is that I know I won't fell out of the world and that the crew trust me and the other members involved - the spirit of Warships is great and it will remain so.
This is growing and letting go the "wet part" of armorama... set sail a Discover a new world.
(actually, it will not be new, but different
and bigger)If you visit modelshipwrights right now, it will look scarce in content, almost naked, but as Jim stated, we need some time to make it full spead ahead!
So guys... If you ever feel the urge to make a warship, like some of you have once in a while, drop by and you will not feel strangers - as usual
Thanks all, for the support
Rui Matos (aka Skipper)
Henk
Joined: August 07, 2004
KitMaker: 6,391 posts
Armorama: 4,258 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 07:17 PM UTC
The harsh reality of seeing all the ship posts and content 'brutaly' removed does leave a bit of a sad feeling of 'loss', but it will no doubt work out in the end.
Sail well shipmates
Sail well shipmates
Sabot
Joined: December 18, 2001
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 07:48 PM UTC
I visited Model Shipwrights and logged in using my current Armorama log in ID, that part went well. When I went into the forums, most of the the user names and avatars were blank (avatars were red Xs) except for Rui/Skipper and a few others. I could see his avatar, user name and real name just fine. I could also see a user named Jess and MartinJQuinn and their avatars.
Am I doing something wrong or is the site still showing signs of teething problems?
Am I doing something wrong or is the site still showing signs of teething problems?
skipper
Joined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,182 posts
Armorama: 761 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 07:54 PM UTC
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I visited Model Shipwrights and logged in using my current Armorama log in ID, that part went well. When I went into the forums, most of the the user names and avatars were blank (avatars were red Xs) except for Rui/Skipper and a few others. I could see his avatar, user name and real name just fine. I could also see a user named Jess and MartinJQuinn and their avatars.
Am I doing something wrong or is the site still showing signs of teething problems?
Hi Robin
Same thing happened to me, and then I figure it out!
All the members that have already loged in in MSW will show name / Avatar - the lot!
Until they do - there is a blank situation, and even the "my Profile" button associated with that post doesn't work
Jim has identified this as a cookie issue
Thanks for your input
Skipper
Merlin
Senior Editor#017
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,582 posts
Armorama: 903 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:20 PM UTC
Hi Rui
Good luck with your voyage of discovery! It's very fitting that Warships is the first of us to go solo - after all, you are the Senior Service!
I went across to MSW and logged in OK - and added a post to the Flattops thread. I got an error message saying the post could not be sent - but then the screen re-drew and my entry was there after all.
All the best
Rowan
Good luck with your voyage of discovery! It's very fitting that Warships is the first of us to go solo - after all, you are the Senior Service!
I went across to MSW and logged in OK - and added a post to the Flattops thread. I got an error message saying the post could not be sent - but then the screen re-drew and my entry was there after all.
All the best
Rowan
Clanky44
Joined: September 15, 2005
KitMaker: 1,901 posts
Armorama: 553 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:27 PM UTC
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It will be nice to see Armorama get back to its roots.
What 'roots' would those be.... strictly armour?!?
I realize that I'm in the minority here... As a modeller that spends equal time building all that it has to offer, the diversification of this site is what attracted me in the first place. A site that encompassed my many varied tastes in modelling all under one banner. To see this fragmented, is a shame. When I logged in today and noticed that the ship forums where no longer there, it lost it's appeal to me.
To those of you that feel that this site should be strictly an armour site, I feel for you, for by limiting your interests to such a narrow path, you have done a great injustice to the hobby, and to yourselves.
staff_Jim
PublisherJoined: December 15, 2001
KitMaker: 12,571 posts
Armorama: 6,599 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:34 PM UTC
Frank,
You make it sound so personal... the only reason for the shift is to give ship - figure - aircraft modelers their own "space". The site is the site. You call it Armorama, I call it an engine, a database, a community. It's only a "banner" if you make it about that.
Besides... are we marching off to do battle or something? :-)
There will be a "banner" site one day that will do the function of what Armorama did (provide a homebase for all the different focus areas). It just isn't ready to deploy right now until the other sites are up and running. Until then I just ask a little patience.
Thanks,
Jim
You make it sound so personal... the only reason for the shift is to give ship - figure - aircraft modelers their own "space". The site is the site. You call it Armorama, I call it an engine, a database, a community. It's only a "banner" if you make it about that.
Besides... are we marching off to do battle or something? :-)
There will be a "banner" site one day that will do the function of what Armorama did (provide a homebase for all the different focus areas). It just isn't ready to deploy right now until the other sites are up and running. Until then I just ask a little patience.
Thanks,
Jim
matt
Campaigns AdministratorJoined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,957 posts
Armorama: 2,956 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:35 PM UTC
It's all still the same big Family..... I think it's a good thing from an Admin POV.... to split it as it is growing....
I'm sure it'll help with outages and such by "splitting"
the Site into segments.....
BUT there are still a few "grey areas" like the BWN of Vietnam......
I'm sure it'll help with outages and such by "splitting"
the Site into segments.....
BUT there are still a few "grey areas" like the BWN of Vietnam......
jimbrae
Joined: April 23, 2003
KitMaker: 12,927 posts
Armorama: 9,486 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:38 PM UTC
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A site that encompassed my many varied tastes in modelling all under one banner.
I agree completely Frank, however, the reality is that the site will (at some point in the future) become really unwieldy, that's (partly) why the decision has been taken.
I welcome (in particular) the arrival of ModelShipwrights.com as much as I admire the 'Big' sites, they are perhaps a touch 'intimidating' for those of us who don't have the knowledge base of the 'specialists', in that it will certainly be more accessible. Inevitably of course there's going to be 'crossover' into areas like Landing Craft and (dare I say
) Naval Aviation, all these things will inevitably strengthen rather than weaken...Jim skipper
Joined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,182 posts
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Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:43 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextIt will be nice to see Armorama get back to its roots.
What 'roots' would those be.... strictly armour?!?
I realize that I'm in the minority here... As a modeller that spends equal time building all that it has to offer, the diversification of this site is what attracted me in the first place. A site that encompassed my many varied tastes in modelling all under one banner. To see this fragmented, is a shame. When I logged in today and noticed that the ship forums where no longer there, it lost it's appeal to me.
To those of you that feel that this site should be strictly an armour site, I feel for you, for by limiting your interests to such a narrow path, you have done a great injustice to the hobby, and to yourselves.
Hi Frank
I understand your feeling and it was my first feeling too - until I got it right!
It will continue to work as before, the differences being it has a specific domain, a slightly different layout, but everything will continue the same - all that it is needed is for Jim to sort out some "gremlins" that are still alive
I have found you a most valuable member and I would hate you to leave for this particular reason!!!!
Rui (aka Skipper)
capnjock
Joined: May 19, 2003
KitMaker: 860 posts
Armorama: 411 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:49 PM UTC
Go for it! As long as I am able to get to all my other interests, I see no major problem for me.
capnjock
capnjock
skipper
Joined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,182 posts
Armorama: 761 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:58 PM UTC
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BUT there are still a few "grey areas" like the BWN of Vietnam......
:) Actually there is such an area Matt
https://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index
Millitary Small Craft
For topics on PT boats, Landing Craft, Vietnam Riverine, etc
Only missing content and members to bring it alive!!!
Rui (aka Skipper)
Clanky44
Joined: September 15, 2005
KitMaker: 1,901 posts
Armorama: 553 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 10:21 PM UTC
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Frank,
You make it sound so personal... the only reason for the shift is to give ship - figure - aircraft modelers their own "space". The site is the site. You call it Armorama, I call it an engine, a database, a community. It's only a "banner" if you make it about that.
Besides... are we marching off to do battle or something? :-)
There will be a "banner" site one day that will do the function of what Armorama did (provide a homebase for all the different focus areas). It just isn't ready to deploy right now until the other sites are up and running. Until then I just ask a little patience.
Thanks,
Jim
Personal.... Impatient.... Hot-headed,.... whatever you want to call it,... I'm guilty of it. I will try and curtail my judgements until the final changes are visible.
(Patience has never been my forte)
Frank
Sabot
Joined: December 18, 2001
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:39 PM UTC
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Yes, armor roots. I came to this site when it started as an armor and armor diorama modeling site. Things were much simpler back then. Like you, my modeling tastes vary. Many of the members here that know me have seen the mass of kits I have. While the vast majority of my kits are armor of all scales, I dare say that I have more car, plane, sci-fi, figure and ship models than most modelers who only build car, plane, sci-fi, and figure or ship models. In fact, I’ve won IPMS awards for car, boat, figure and sci-fi models as well as armor and softskin models.Quoted TextIt will be nice to see Armorama get back to its roots.
What 'roots' would those be.... strictly armour?!?
I realize that I'm in the minority here... As a modeller that spends equal time building all that it has to offer, the diversification of this site is what attracted me in the first place. A site that encompassed my many varied tastes in modelling all under one banner. To see this fragmented, is a shame. When I logged in today and noticed that the ship forums where no longer there, it lost it's appeal to me.
To those of you that feel that this site should be strictly an armour site, I feel for you, for by limiting your interests to such a narrow path, you have done a great injustice to the hobby, and to yourselves.
I never said I felt the site should be a strictly armor site and in fact, I was probably the member who asked that the site include a space/sci-fi forum in the first few months the site was online.
I like the fact that Armorama has all areas of modeling under one roof, but it will be nice to see them all get a home of their own under the overarching Kitmaker banner. I keep reminding myself to take advantage of the hide user button.
matt
Campaigns AdministratorJoined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,957 posts
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Posted: Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:53 PM UTC
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BUT there are still a few "grey areas" like the BWN of Vietnam......
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:) Actually there is such an area Matt
https://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index
Millitary Small Craft
For topics on PT boats, Landing Craft, Vietnam Riverine, etc
Only missing content and members to bring it alive!!!
I call it Grey area....... Kind of in a they really Supported the Army / SF in Vietnam and the pbr is in 1/35 scale...LOL I do ralize there's a section on the Ship site.....
Clanky44
Joined: September 15, 2005
KitMaker: 1,901 posts
Armorama: 553 posts
Posted: Monday, April 03, 2006 - 12:13 AM UTC
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I keep reminding myself to take advantage of the hide user button.
I wish you would. That way I wouldn't have to be your personal punching bag everytime I make a comment or a spelling mistake. For someone of your 'authority', you have proven to me over and over just how questionable you are as an editor on this site. I'm not sure what I've done to irk you, let just hope, for the sake of this site and potential new members that it's isolated to me. Someone with higher authority should rein you in!
Sabot
Joined: December 18, 2001
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
KitMaker: 12,596 posts
Armorama: 9,071 posts
Posted: Monday, April 03, 2006 - 12:57 AM UTC
Hmm, an editor that points out spelling mistakes. You'd think that something like that would be expected.
*plonk*
*plonk*
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