Anyone have a good pic that shows the base of the pallet the tubes are loaded on, on the supply truck? Im wanting to construct one for a display

Ok Gary, the Sargeant that works here with me in the shop was a M1/M1A1 tanker before he switched MOS's. He said that the ammo comes on a standard wooden pallet. The rounds come in a crate with rope handles with two black tubes per crate and is stacked about waist high. He said he has video at home of this but doesn't know where they went.

Hope this helps out. I know Rob(SABOT) is a tanker and probably has pictures of this. Ther are a couple of other tankers on line too.

If I may, and I have not served, so I may not know what I am talking about, there is at least one system of delivering ammo in which it comes in what is called a Jungle Pack by some tankers. I have a photo or two of this that I may be able to dig up when I get home later.
It is a photo of the men receiving their ammo just before they roll up to the border. These jungle packs were on the ground though.

I have seen photos of the ammo being left on a trailor and the men taking the ammo from there w/o first being offloaded onto the ground. There is a photo of this in a book written by a CNN journalist who was embedded w/ the 7th Cav. I think the book is called Sleeping w/ Custer and the 7th Cavalry or something like that.

You are describing the 105mm rounds and how they are transported. Those black tubes were made of cardboard covered in tar paper. We called them "Tootsie Rolls" after the chocolate candy.

120mm rounds come in metal ammo containers. They interlock into a large cube shape that is referred to as a "honey comb". The end of the individual ammo tubes come off and the 120mm round comes out. No Tootsie Rolls for these.

If I can dig up a picture, I will scan it and post it. I seem to remember they were around 5 rounds tall by 5 rounds wide and banded together (I could be wrong though). Since they are interlockable, it would be possible to create a honey comb or virtually any size.

In our day we would get a skid of main gun ammo that would be delivered by a GOER> It would simply pick the pallet up with it's onboard crane set it on the ground and move on. Then we would deal with the crates and "tootsie rolls". So what do they do with the 120's? Is this a reusable cube? How many rounds does it contain?

This is what I was talking about and I think Rob is talking about the same thing.





You will see that there is a cap that has been removed from many of the rounds in these photos, and the bottom of the round is showing. You may be able to see something similar to these at Army/Navy surplus stores here in the US; at least a better view of the endcap than I have here. What they have at Army/Navy stores MAY be for other types of rounds, but I just in smaller sizes; it's been awhile.

The caps can be seen piled up on top.

Bob

Yes, Bob. That's the honey comb I was talking about.

If I count right theyre laying 6X6. Looks like anglestock on the edges with strap all around. Maybe angle on bottom for skids?

the lower pic has what looks like a I beam maybe welded to the 2 pcs of channel........

5x6. Sorry, this is all I have.





Of some interest, note the tank in the background called All The Way To Baghdad. This tank was in my book in a distressed state w/ three roadwheels sheared off on the right side, and it was scrapped. Note the red tipped plow blade, which seemed to be common on 3rd ID tanks. I had not noticed the red tips before til someone pointed that out to me.

The red color is used to denote the platoon. US tank platoons use colors for call signs. 1st, 2nd and 3rd platoons are Red, White and Blue respectively.

Additionally, the chevron over the unit tactical number is pointing straight up. That also denotes 1st platoon. As the chevron points to the right, it would be 2nd platoon, and downward would be 3rd platoon. If a company had a 4th platoon, it would point to the left.

The red stripes on the bore evacuator indicate the tank number within 1st platoon.

The "1" in the tactical number 51 denotes A Company as well as the tank name beginning with the letter "A".

All the Way... would be bumper number A-13. The tank behind it would be bumper number A-21. White stripe=2nd platoon, one stripe=#1 tank.