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Sturmtiger dio - 16T Fries Crane added
dsotm
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:02 PM UTC
Have now added the resin 16T Fries Crane from DES Kit. Not a kit I would willingly do again.......Many thanks to Vinnie for the Famo wheels







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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:05 PM UTC
Very nice Brian - why is the kit so bad? I have wanted to add it to my collection for awhile!
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:14 PM UTC

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Very nice Brian - why is the kit so bad? I have wanted to add it to my collection for awhile!




1. The instructions are very poor - photocopies of grainy images of completed sections - in many of them the parts are invisible and unidentifiable
2. There is very little reference material for it - i was lucky to get info from an author who is publishing a book later this year on all versions of the crane - there are still 7 in use in Europe!
3. The crane is not accurate but a combination of features from both the 15T and 16T versions
4. Its not cheap - I paid £60 for mine at Euro Militaire and one went on ebay last week for £155
5. Some of the casting on the support structures is poor - because they are so thin and delicate, fixing this is very difficult, in some areas I did not try for fear of breaking the part.
6. Casting on the some of the gears is poor, I replaced most of the gears and wheels with stuff from RC gearboxes and watchmakers parts
7. DES are fairly unhelpful - they do not have an English speaker (and I speak no French), do not have an email adress, and all enquiries have to be directed in French via fax - welcome to stone age
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 09:10 PM UTC
WoW! It's a bit of a behemoth isn't it? Those wheels look good though... :-) :-)
Can't wait to see this with the rest of the scene. Looks fantastic Brian......nice one!

Vinnie
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 09:24 PM UTC
Bet a lot of hard work has gone into that
looks very good.

karl
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:17 PM UTC

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Very nice Brian - why is the kit so bad? I have wanted to add it to my collection for awhile!




1. The instructions are very poor - photocopies of grainy images of completed sections - in many of them the parts are invisible and unidentifiable
2. There is very little reference material for it - i was lucky to get info from an author who is publishing a book later this year on all versions of the crane - there are still 7 in use in Europe!
3. The crane is not accurate but a combination of features from both the 15T and 16T versions
4. Its not cheap - I paid £60 for mine at Euro Militaire and one went on ebay last week for £155
5. Some of the casting on the support structures is poor - because they are so thin and delicate, fixing this is very difficult, in some areas I did not try for fear of breaking the part.
6. Casting on the some of the gears is poor, I replaced most of the gears and wheels with stuff from RC gearboxes and watchmakers parts
7. DES are fairly unhelpful - they do not have an English speaker (and I speak no French), do not have an email adress, and all enquiries have to be directed in French via fax - welcome to stone age



Well inspite of all that, you did a fine job on it. Thanks for showing it.

BH
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:30 PM UTC
Fanastic job Brian,I diddn't know there was a kit of this available,you've made a real silk purse from a sows ear !!
Is that an empty headache tablet pack on the bench??
Was it that bad??? :-) :-)
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:48 PM UTC
It may have caused you "headaches" Brian, but your finished model looks excellent, well done

Regards from the Swamp

Hawkeye
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:50 PM UTC

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Fanastic job Brian,I diddn't know there was a kit of this available,you've made a real silk purse from a sows ear !!
Is that an empty headache tablet pack on the bench??
Was it that bad??? :-) :-)



Thanks guys - the empty pill thingy is where I keep CA while I'm using it - stays wet for ages and can be picked up and applied with wire in pin vise
Torchy
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Posted: Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:53 PM UTC

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Fanastic job Brian,I diddn't know there was a kit of this available,you've made a real silk purse from a sows ear !!
Is that an empty headache tablet pack on the bench??
Was it that bad??? :-) :-)



Thanks guys - the empty pill thingy is where I keep CA while I'm using it - stays wet for ages and can be picked up and applied with wire in pin vise



Hey,, Neat tip
Cheers mate
SimonW
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 01:54 AM UTC
Yes, thanks very much for the tip. How's the diorama going? Judging by the crane photos it'll be a treat to see.

I was attracted to this thread as I knew that someone made a kit of the 16T Fries crane but I couldn't remember who. I did find the DES kit website but I couldn't find a pricelist. Am I being stupid or isn't there one?
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 02:58 AM UTC
This is the crane the Germans used in their maintenance units right? To lift Tiger turrets etc?

Would love to have a (decent/good) kit of such a crane

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 05:54 AM UTC
I do something similiar with the super glue. I took a thick piece of plastic/foam posterboard and drilled a conical well using an old stencil blade. A drop or two in the thing will stay workable for quite some time. I put a stand on one side to hold up the stretched sprue that I use to apply the super glue. It works, for years.
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 07:22 AM UTC
That is an amazing job! I'd hate to have to move it around!


Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 09:42 AM UTC
Cant wait to see the finished dio....
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:39 AM UTC

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Very nice Brian - why is the kit so bad? I have wanted to add it to my collection for awhile!




1. The instructions are very poor - photocopies of grainy images of completed sections - in many of them the parts are invisible and unidentifiable
2. There is very little reference material for it - i was lucky to get info from an author who is publishing a book later this year on all versions of the crane - there are still 7 in use in Europe!
3. The crane is not accurate but a combination of features from both the 15T and 16T versions
4. Its not cheap - I paid £60 for mine at Euro Militaire and one went on ebay last week for £155
5. Some of the casting on the support structures is poor - because they are so thin and delicate, fixing this is very difficult, in some areas I did not try for fear of breaking the part.
6. Casting on the some of the gears is poor, I replaced most of the gears and wheels with stuff from RC gearboxes and watchmakers parts
7. DES are fairly unhelpful - they do not have an English speaker (and I speak no French), do not have an email adress, and all enquiries have to be directed in French via fax - welcome to stone age



Has the book you mention in number 2 available yet? I'd love to scratchbuild one. Thanks for your time. -Mark
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 02:06 AM UTC
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Very nice Brian - why is the kit so bad? I have wanted to add it to my collection for awhile!




Has the book you mention in number 2 available yet? I'd love to scratchbuild one. Thanks for your time. -Mark



Mark

Look out for Nuts & Bolts 22

Brian
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 04:31 AM UTC
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Very nice Brian - why is the kit so bad? I have wanted to add it to my collection for awhile!




Has the book you mention in number 2 available yet? I'd love to scratchbuild one. Thanks for your time. -Mark



Mark

Look out for Nuts & Bolts 22

Brian



Thanks, Brian!!!!! -Mark
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 08:59 PM UTC
Well done!

A lot of respect goes out to you for completing a difficult kit under difficult circumstances and still making a good job of it, congrats!

James
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 06:51 AM UTC
Bump!

Anyone still have pictures of the finished crane?
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