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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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King Tiger production turret
HILBERT
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 08:32 PM UTC
Hey, here are my pictures from my king tiger that I've sprayed yesterday.

Hope you like it.

















Thanks for looking and comments are welcome.

Hilbert Zuijdendorp
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 08:45 PM UTC
Looks good Hilbert - can I ask what colours & paints you used for the cammo?


Sean
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 08:46 PM UTC
I like what I see Hilbert. Were your roadwheels hard to dry fit? I am building one myself and struck catastrophe on the night of 4/7 and could not get the wheels off.
HILBERT
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 09:01 PM UTC
Thanks for your comments.

Fisrt of all I sprayed the model with Tamiya paints. First I did a flat black basecoat, then Dark yellow, then the camo and that is Flat earth and Field grey.

The wheels are horrible to fit and I don't want to brake the suspension arms so I let them almost loose. If I have got friul tracks I will attach them for ever.

Hilbert
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2006 - 02:23 AM UTC
You may have to break parts. It is a major issue if your road wheels (ALL OF THEM) aren't level on the ground. One of my friends had a similar issue and put a rock under it around a diorama to solve the issue. Are you going to leave all the fender skirts off or add all / some of them later? Is this the Tamiya or Dragon kit?
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2006 - 06:06 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I like what I see Hilbert. Were your roadwheels hard to dry fit? I am building one myself and struck catastrophe on the night of 4/7 and could not get the wheels off.



If you have not removed the road wheels yet just rotate them slowly while pulling them off/up. I had the same problem, but with a jagdtiger...hope it helps...


Hilbert: Looks good...BTW, did you roughen the surface -- l like the effect.

Cheers
Vadster
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2006 - 06:23 AM UTC

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It is a major issue if your Is this the Tamiya or Dragon kit?



This is the Dragon Kit - I know because I have slaving away on mine since January. Sorry to "butt in" Hilbert.
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2006 - 06:25 AM UTC

Quoted Text

If you have not removed the road wheels yet just rotate them slowly while pulling them off/up. I had the same problem, but with a jagdtiger...hope it helps...

Cheers



Arvin,

I had to use WD-40 to get them off twisting alone would not work - I still broke off 2 of the idler arms in the process. Hilbert, I plan on going over all the idler arms with a file and some steel wool so I can get the roadwheels to go on easier for the final fit.
HILBERT
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2006 - 07:16 PM UTC
YThanks for the comments. Well I will putt the vehicle in a diorama, and that's why the wheels aren't level with the ground.

I will leave the side skirts off.

This is indeed the dragon kit. A very nice kit.

And yes I did roughen the surface. It is a better result then I had expected.

Marder3TD
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Posted: Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 03:35 PM UTC
What colours did you use for the camo? looks good
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 04:07 PM UTC
Wondering about the cammo colors. If you choose to do a vehicle without Zimmerit, then Dark Yellow is not the base color. From September, 1944 (when Zimmerit was banned) until late December 1944, the base color was red primer, with hard edged-bands of Dark Yellow (Dunkelgelb) and Olive Green (Olivgrun). As time permitted, small dots of the contrasting colors were sometimes applied by brush or spray gun in the larger bands (the so-called "Ambush Scheme").
From December, 1944, a new cammo scheme was authorized, which used Olive Green (Olivgrun) as the base color with bands of Dark Yellow (Dunkelgelb) and Red Brown (Rotbraun), but the factories had until March 1945 to complete switching over to the new scheme. This order also permitted Black Gray (Schwarzgrau, usually called Panzer Gray in model paints) to be substituted for Dunkelgelb if it was unavailable, but the gray was in short supply and was supposed to be conserved, and it is not known to have ever been used. It is not absolutely known when the Henschel factory switched to the final cammo colors, but the final King Tigers delivered in March, 1945 had a uniform dark base color (probably Olivgrun) and a thinly sprayed pattern of Dunkelgelb bands and dots, so apparently the paint supply was drying up as the Allied armies moved in on the Ruhr factories.
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Posted: Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 04:22 PM UTC
Yep, need to get those roadwheels flat, Does this kit have individual track links or plastic band type?
Vadster
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Posted: Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 06:30 PM UTC
Individual track-links.
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Posted: Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 08:53 PM UTC
[quote]Wondering about the cammo colors. If you choose to do a vehicle without Zimmerit, then Dark Yellow is not the base color. From September, 1944 (when Zimmerit was banned) until late December 1944, the base color was red primer, with hard edged-bands of Dark Yellow (Dunkelgelb) and Olive Green (Olivgrun).


What about the Ardennes Tigers? No zimmerit on most but clearly base is Dunkelgelb. I don't think you are correct.

Steve
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 04:31 PM UTC
Ok, say the base was a red primer, what colour would one use, a Flat red from the Tamiya Acrylic range?
Martinnnn
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 04:41 PM UTC
Tamiya Hull red, possibly mixed with a light-brown colour (say earth brown)

Martin
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 04:43 PM UTC
Looks good Hilb!
I was amazed in your pics how the turret hangs over both edges of the hull... Up to this point I don't think I've seen the turret on a Royal Tiger rotated in this position before...
Is a diorama a possibility?
Cheers
Brad
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