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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 01:49 PM UTC
Just to make a change from .50s and Mk19s... (from flickr.com)


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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 05:22 PM UTC


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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 06:19 PM UTC
Oh yes! Now thats looks cool... looks like something straight out of an action movie. Can Legends Mini guns be used for such a conversion?
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 06:27 PM UTC
With a little work... I believe they can be used......
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 06:54 PM UTC

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Anyone got any inside shots? Where would the ammunition be located?



Probably EVERYWHERE. Mini-guns eat up ammunition like nothing else around, so I would suspect they would stack ammo wherever it could go. Most of it would probably be in the back though. What I'm curious about. Mini-guns like that are meant for door gunners on helicopters and the rounds are meant to drop straight down from the gun, so does the spent casings drop straight down?

Very cool though.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 07:02 PM UTC

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What I'm curious about. Mini-guns like that are meant for door gunners on helicopters and the rounds are meant to drop straight down from the gun, so does the spent casings drop straight down?



Yup. Look in the below pic. There is a coiled hose (looks like a dryer vent pipe) coming out of the bottom of the gun. This is where the spent casing come out. Most likely, they go into an empty ammo can below. Cool looking set-up. Talk about firepower. Awesome!!



After closer inspection, that could be the ammo feed chute coming in too. There usually is an in chute, and an exit tube to put the casings where you want them. You don't want them flying all over the place. I know, hot brass down the back of your shirt doesn't feel too good.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:48 PM UTC
Hot brass down the shirt!? Try two of them in the chinstrap. I got scars for life. Ouch!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:43 PM UTC
looks simalar to the Navy set up for mini-guns-

they went with the chain gun for stopping power after the Cole-

Boo-ya!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:56 AM UTC

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looks simalar to the Navy set up for mini-guns-

they went with the chain gun for stopping power after the Cole-

Boo-ya!



What ships modified this? FFGs and DDGs or larger ships? I know a number of ships had 25mm Bushmasters on them before 2001. But I agree that 25mm is probably the best medium between a .50 shell and a 3 inch shell!


As for the mini-gun, the ammo feed chute is the bent rectangular line going up to the gun. Looks like it is feeding from the right side. The spent casing chute I think is the short cylinder angled forward. Either way the spent casings are going down.

I trust this is a GMV from an SF unit?


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Posted: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:08 AM UTC
nice pics - i have to admit that is the first thing that has ever inspired me to think about building a hummer model!
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Posted: Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 05:15 AM UTC
I think the M134 can be set up to feed from either the right or left depending on application.
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Posted: Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:05 PM UTC
good lord, is that RUST on the 25mm barrel? My Battery Sergeant Major's handle bar moustache would be unraveling at the sight of that!
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Posted: Friday, April 14, 2006 - 06:20 AM UTC
That is a steel wool package and a halfs worth of rust that's for sure. They must rust like a son of a gun with all the salt water and sea air.
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Posted: Friday, April 14, 2006 - 07:10 AM UTC
Glad to see the minigun on the ground. But it does bring up this question: Why hasn't the military deployed the M163 Vulcan in street fighting in Iraq? Surely a few of those must be around still. The Israelis used them with deadly effectiveness in Beiruit. Can you imagine what they would have done to insurgents in Fallujah or in any other street fight? I bet the terrorists would high tail it out of there rather than try to hold out against one of those.
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Posted: Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:18 PM UTC
personally I prefer -

The Mk-45 gun system offers significant improvements in reliability and maintainability over the previous 5"/54 (12.7 cm) caliber Mark 42 gun systems. It is claimed that this is the lightest 5-in (12.7 cm) mount in the world, however, it is also one of the slowest firing. The gun-house is watertight and has zone-temperature controlled de-icing of the gunport. The Mod 1 version incorporates a major improvement in that it can select and fire six different kinds of ammunition at the push of a button, thus increasing the speed at which it can respond to changing threats. The Mk-45 was designed as lightweight gun with a weight of only 22 tons. This was only possible by reducing the penetration, the range, and the number of rounds a minute. (Compared to the Mk 42 gun).

Fully automated, there is only one person necessary to operate this gun and the mount is unmanned. The whole gun crew consists of 6 people.

Each mount has its own magazine with approx. 600 rounds in it and the Mk 45 is controlled by either the Mk 86 Gun Fire Control System or the Mk 160 Gun Computing System.
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Posted: Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:25 PM UTC

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good lord, is that RUST on the 25mm barrel? My Battery Sergeant Major's handle bar moustache would be unraveling at the sight of that!


not rust - lordy no -(I HATE rust!!) heat discoloration and staining - -this weapon will be thoroughly cleaned and lubricated (clp break free) prior to being covered with a herculite weather cover.- Did I mention- I HATE RUST? Too many years as a rust picking deck ape !
2CAVTrooper
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:38 AM UTC
Nah, forget the M163......I'd like to see a ground mount GAU-8 or just bring back the M106 with its beehive rounds
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 07:08 PM UTC
I doubt the wart hog pilots will give up their guns!

Now - that's a gun!
30mm GAU-8/A Gatling gun can fire 3,900 rounds a minute
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 08:23 PM UTC
Does anyone make a 1/35 mini-gun?

Cobra Comapany makes an XM-23 gun set for helicopters which contains 2 M-134 Miniguns. Would thye work?
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:45 PM UTC
Yes, the above minigun is an M134. They are available in the Academy 1/35 MH-60G and AH-60L DAP kits as doormounts. They also come in Dragon's AH-6J Littlebird on external pylon mounts.

CC's XM-23 set include M60D MG's, not M134 Miniguns. CC does make a set of M134 door guns for MH-60's though. CC Blackhawk Weapons set.

Legends makes a set of Vietnam era XM-134's (different flash suppressor on barrels) that are more the size of 1/32 (or larger) as well.
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