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Dragon Wagon taking turn, new update!
nicoropi
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Vaud, Switzerland
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:25 PM UTC
Hi all!
Good to be back after the house move!
Now I'm all organised, and I was able to make some progress on the dio.
As you've seen in the previous episodes, it's about a Dragon Wagon taking a turn, and destroying a fence.
My dad made some progress on the fence, I made some more work on the DW paint, on the Sherman, some figs painted, and we got this idea to get the base not parallel to the road direction, as per the golden rule!
Still not sure about which figs to add, still not sure about which vehicle to add in the yard, still not sure about what to put in the empty spots : maybe a town square with a fountain opposite the building, maybe some grass in the other corner... I know some figs are shiny and the jeep is just there for scale.
Any suggestions welcome!
Here them pix







What do you think?
Sticky
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:14 PM UTC
Hello Ropi.

An ambitious project for sure. I have some comments to make, please take them constructivly.

1. Im not sure any big rig driver worth his salt would take a turn that sharply - they know better!
2. You may want to check the date the Mutt was put into service. I think you have a time period mis-match here.

Other than those, I like the layout and the basic theme.
nicoropi
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:32 PM UTC
Hi John,
Thanks for the comments.
The jeep is going away, it is just there for scale.
I have a willy's jeep in the mail, hopefuly not lost.

Do you have a suggestion how I can make the layout of the building better so that it is credible?

If not, too bad. I guess I'll just say this is the only way they could go, through that turn!
:-) :-)
Sticky
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:39 PM UTC
I would say you need to add some object in the way so the driver had to take the turn that way. Also if the way was so bad, maybe make it an underfire scene insted of talking bout the bad driving - Under fire the driver may say the heck with the fence I'm going!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:44 PM UTC
I can certainly understand a situation like this happening.

When the US army was in Europe, they didn't know every road/ street, so they most definately would have gotten into situations like this... very tight, perhaps too tight to turn, and the rest of the platoon behind you, so backing up is not an option.

I'd try to add some MP's inthere somewhere, and perhaps some US soldiers taking this oportunity to get some rest, have some coffee or smoke a siggie.

Other than that... Nice work.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:28 AM UTC
Don't have a ton of time to respond in depth - but your base does not have to be square. It can be a funny shape cut directly out of a solid wooden base. That way nothing will be parallel, the base will add visual interest and you 'cut out' empty spots.

See my pinkie diorama in my gallery for an example.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 04:59 PM UTC
A fountain on one side is a good idea. Grass with a tree would be another.
In the other corner i would cut the dio at the angle and only do the absolute minimum pavement to show the continuation of the road. If a small section remains you can show a small piece of sidewalk , evtl with a observing civilian. A tree in the yard would be fine to.

Just some ideas

Cheers
nicoropi
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Posted: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:30 PM UTC
Thanks guys.
I think I am definetly going to leave the corners on : Will enable me to get rid of a couple of vehicles and figs in my stash
Will make the finish date even further than it is today...
Sherman_67
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 07:07 AM UTC
What was the maker of the sherman
generalzod
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 07:23 AM UTC
As far as the trailer hitting the fence goes.......Maybe showing how a jeep or other small vehicle cut the Dragon Wagon off as he was making a wide turn The big rig driver had to hit the fence instead of the Jeep

As a big rig driver I know what it is like making a wide turn We really have to watch both the left and the right to see if anyone will cut us off while making those turns
nicoropi
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:53 AM UTC
Maker of the Sherman : Italeri

Chad, can you explain more what you mean by cutting off? Sorry that one is not part of my limited vocabulary. Do you mean passing on the left? Or arriving from the other side?
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:11 PM UTC
Ropi

On tight corners like that,the driver would turn the cab of the truck as far left as possible That way the trailer will follow the truck to the left so to avoid running into the fence

What I was think was the driver on your Dragon Wagon was turning towards the left,but a Jeep or even a motorcycle turned into the path of the oncoming truck So to avaoid hitting the other vehicle the Dragon Wagon turned to the right and then the trailer hit the fence

It's hard for me to try to explain it in words on a computer Hopefully what I said makes some sort of sense
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