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KV-2
MZ3
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 05:08 AM UTC
Most of what I build are Gundams and Sci-fi stuff. But the Armor bug has bitten me. This is the first tank I've ever done. I hand painted the slogans on the sides of the turret. I notices a lot of the KV-2s I've seen online had either the decals or nothing. All the pics I looked at online had either nothing or tons of different slogans and markings. So I just used my imagination. This side says Russia, the other says victory. Might not be accurate, but who cares





Pics are kind of dark, as I took them about ten minutes ago.
rv1963
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 05:10 AM UTC
I think you did a fine job on your first tank , the only improvments would be the pics as you pointed, out looks good.
MZ3
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 05:42 AM UTC
I usually take really good pics, but today they suck. I'll take more later.
Brokeneagle
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 06:42 AM UTC
nice KV...I think your mud has come up nicley against the dark gereen of the tank.
Would be nice to see some clear pictures.
Diocletian
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Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 11:28 AM UTC
Great job on the weathering. It adds much realism. What method did you use to add all the mud in the lower superstructure?
Cyberwombat
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 09:27 PM UTC
What color green did you use for that? I'm still experimenting.
MZ3
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 04:47 AM UTC
Better pics...




Silantra
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Putrajaya, Malaysia
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 05:53 AM UTC
Jason..

that was awesome build and finished...

tell us how did u do the rust and the texture...

for a first tank, i think you have done excellent work...

MZ3
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 06:13 AM UTC
The rust is a combo of enamel, watercolor and pigment.

For textrue (I hope your talking about the dirt) pigment and thinner. I used my truck at work as a model for the mud :-)
ShermiesRule
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Michigan, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 06:19 AM UTC
Those new pics are great. Your KV2 rocks
rv1963
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New York, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 06:46 AM UTC
Yes these pics are a lot better and your KV looks great.
goatmonkey
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 08:10 PM UTC
The KV looks great, excellent weathering, but one correction: it's spelled "Россия", ie there shouldn't be a mark over the second to last letter in the word. take note if you wish, otherwise disregard.
MZ3
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 04:46 AM UTC
I got the spelling off of a website that had a ton of Russian slogans. It was the only spelling I could find online for that. I didn't count how many sites I actually went to, but it was a lot. I was also looking for slogans for the KV-1, which is my next project. I might fix it, might not.


edit- Someone school me on this if possible. I've been looking online and I see BOTH россйя and россия being used on a ton of site. Both meaning Russia.
goatmonkey
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 07:54 AM UTC
there are two letters in the cyrilic alphabet that you're interchanging here: и and й. "и" is pronounced 'ee' as in 'see'. "й" is the 'y' in 'yes' "russia" in russian is pronounced 'ro-see-ya' and spelled with a "и". If it was spelled with a "й" it would be pronounced 'ro-sya' which would not be spelled that way since the last letter is a two-sound symbol, blah blah blah. what i THINK the source of the misunderstanding might be is this: if you look on the russian wikipedia at http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F the top of the paragraph says "Росси́я". this is NOT the same thing as й although it can often look the same. the tick at the top there is a stress indicator. i think technically they're valid in english as well but i don't remember ever seeing them except in maybe ESL textbooks. on the other hand they're pretty common in russian, i've seen whole older books with stress indicators on every word. it's pretty damn anoying.

now it's possible that some other country that uses cyrilic lettering spells russian with the й but i wouldn't know. then again i'm not sure why they'd be writing out "russia" on their tanks.

once again the tank looks great. sorry to nitpick. feel free to get on my case when i misspell english. :-)
warthog
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 07:59 AM UTC
Very nice build and better pics to boost. The redish colored mud is consistent of Russian soil nice effect. I have just one nitpick w/c if you want you could still consider is the rust color (it might just be the picture). The rust is a bit on the orange side...maybe you could darken it a little particularly the inner part of the rusted area. BTW, I'm referring to the turret only

Cheers
MZ3
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2006 - 08:28 AM UTC

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there are two letters in the cyrilic alphabet that you're interchanging here: и and й. "и" is pronounced 'ee' as in 'see'. "й" is the 'y' in 'yes' "russia" in russian is pronounced 'ro-see-ya' and spelled with a "и". If it was spelled with a "й" it would be pronounced 'ro-sya' which would not be spelled that way since the last letter is a two-sound symbol, blah blah blah. what i THINK the source of the misunderstanding might be is this: if you look on the russian wikipedia at http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F the top of the paragraph says "Росси́я". this is NOT the same thing as й although it can often look the same. the tick at the top there is a stress indicator. i think technically they're valid in english as well but i don't remember ever seeing them except in maybe ESL textbooks. on the other hand they're pretty common in russian, i've seen whole older books with stress indicators on every word. it's pretty damn anoying.

now it's possible that some other country that uses cyrilic lettering spells russian with the й but i wouldn't know. then again i'm not sure why they'd be writing out "russia" on their tanks.

once again the tank looks great. sorry to nitpick. feel free to get on my case when i misspell english. :-)



Thank you for the info. I got to admit, I'm still confused, as some of the sites I looked at were Russian sites. I think next time I'll just us the decals

The rust, I think it is the picture. It seems darker in real life. I also modeled the rust off of my truck at work.
WingTzun
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2006 - 08:35 AM UTC
Nice job Jason. And regarding the slogan spelling.....It's all Russian to me :-) :-)
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