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Vallejo Model Air
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 08:37 AM UTC
I would just like to state for the record that Vallejo Model Color is really nice paint for hand brushing, and that Vallejo Model Air is the WORST paint for airbrushing - what crap - thinned the stuff with their thinner, added their retarder and the stuff still clogs my Iwata in less than 30 secs, while I can work with thinned Tamiya paints for an hour and never have an issue!

There I feel better.
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:10 AM UTC
I'm glad you posted this Sticky. I' was thinking of investing in some Vallejo Model Air but now.........
I used to use Humbrol before I got sidetraked with work, familty etc,
Tamiya paints work that well out of the air brush or bottle eh? I'll have to look into that.
Torchy
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 12:18 PM UTC
Sticky,
Total agree mate, the Vallejo's didn't work for me
2 models out of 10 were successful ,I had to strip/respray the others!
I find Tamiya paints far better
thats my two pence worth :-)
Andy
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 12:41 PM UTC
Guys

I had the same issues with Model Air also. I don't think that their thinner is actually "thinner" - it's more like a retardant.

Anyway, I had the same issues until I started adding some Model Air Gloss Varnish to the mix as well. Since then I have found it goes down beautifully and has reduced the number of times you need to "clean" the tip of your AB.

After spending so much on them, I didn't want to just give up......
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 04:47 PM UTC
Ok I will try it, only becuase their color range is superior. :-)
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 05:11 PM UTC
I have had NO problems with Model Air, sprayed out of my Iwata Eclipse, straight from the bottle. I spray nothing but acrylics and really like Model Air.

Try using it straight from the bottle.
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 06:33 PM UTC
I agree with spraying straight from the bottle. I have found that it goes down great. My only issues have been with some of the lighter colors being to thin or runny.
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 06:53 PM UTC

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I have had NO problems with Model Air, sprayed out of my Iwata Eclipse, straight from the bottle. I spray nothing but acrylics and really like Model Air.

Try using it straight from the bottle.



I've not used the stuff too much, just some german dark yellow, drak green and red brown so far. But I have sprayed straight from the bottle through my Tamiya superfine with good results.

I had heard that it reacts poorly with rubbing alcohol , my usual airbrush cleaner and thinner. So I made sure to flush the brush very well with water after painting and then finished up cleaning with rubbing alc.
No problems.

My US$0.02
Mike
A guy in our local club sprays large scale aircraft with great results and swears by the stuff
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 07:46 PM UTC
With my Submicron I can paint a hair line with Tamiya paints. No way with the Vallejo - and I have used it straight from the bottle, and that is fine for broad coverage, but not super fine work.
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:06 PM UTC

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With my Submicron I can paint a hair line with Tamiya paints. No way with the Vallejo - and I have used it straight from the bottle, and that is fine for broad coverage, but not super fine work.



Hi John,

I am used to a airbrush that was more of a paint sprayer. When I got my Iwata I was in heaven even with the Vallejo paint. My perception of a fine line is something smaller than a blast of paint that covers inches at a time. :-) :-) :-)
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