Okay, I'm very new to all of this, and therefore have many questions. Let me start and ask:
What is CA glue?
How do you affix your figures/models to the bases of the diorama?
Where do most of you buy most of your supplies?
Thought I had more, I'm sure I'll think of some. Thanks for taking the time to help a beginner get into the hobby with all their low-level questions.
Dee
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Dee
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 03:10 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 03:43 AM UTC
Hi,
Welcome to AA
Cyano Acrilate glue - glue used mainly to join resin and PE to plastics
Normally with a peg in one of the feet
At LHS - Local Hobby Shop - or at the Internet shops
If you go through the features articles here at AA you can get a lot of replies for your doubts.
HTH
Welcome to AA
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What is CA glue?
Cyano Acrilate glue - glue used mainly to join resin and PE to plastics
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How do you affix your figures/models to the bases of the diorama?
Normally with a peg in one of the feet
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Where do most of you buy most of your supplies?
At LHS - Local Hobby Shop - or at the Internet shops
If you go through the features articles here at AA you can get a lot of replies for your doubts.
HTH
War_Machine
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 03:52 AM UTC
Here are a few quick and dirty answers for you:
1. CA glue is superglue. There are numerous different varieties primarily for model work.
2. I normally affix figures to bases by inserting pins into whichever body part is touching the base and drilling holes in the base to receive the pins. I usually use epoxy glue for extra strength to hold them in place as well.
3. I get most of my supplies from my local hobby shop (LHS). If you don't have a good one nearby, there are numerous online shops you can order from easily, and usually get a decent discount as well. You can check the links on the site for some of the better online shops available.
Hope this helps!
1. CA glue is superglue. There are numerous different varieties primarily for model work.
2. I normally affix figures to bases by inserting pins into whichever body part is touching the base and drilling holes in the base to receive the pins. I usually use epoxy glue for extra strength to hold them in place as well.
3. I get most of my supplies from my local hobby shop (LHS). If you don't have a good one nearby, there are numerous online shops you can order from easily, and usually get a decent discount as well. You can check the links on the site for some of the better online shops available.
Hope this helps!
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 03:54 AM UTC
CA glue is more commonly known as super glue.
My figures normally have a tiny hole drilled at some place where the figure contacts the base and a matching hole is drilled in the base. A small pin or peg is inserted into the figure and base. I use a little bit of white glue to further secure them. That way I can still remove the figures since white glue is easily removable.
My figures normally have a tiny hole drilled at some place where the figure contacts the base and a matching hole is drilled in the base. A small pin or peg is inserted into the figure and base. I use a little bit of white glue to further secure them. That way I can still remove the figures since white glue is easily removable.
slodder
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 03:58 AM UTC
Not a problem - if you don't ask you might never know.
Ditto CA - Zap is a popular brand name
Figures - peg method quite often, unless they are sitting down. Insert the peg right after assembly and make it long It will serve as a holder during painting. Then drill your hole and cut off the peg.
Supplie - if they are modeling specific tools - I get them at a local RailRoad store. If they are things like plaster, trees, leaves, paints (acrylic hobby type), glue, resin, etc I get a lot at places Michaels craft store.
heres a cool thread
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/74736&page=1
Ditto CA - Zap is a popular brand name
Figures - peg method quite often, unless they are sitting down. Insert the peg right after assembly and make it long It will serve as a holder during painting. Then drill your hole and cut off the peg.
Supplie - if they are modeling specific tools - I get them at a local RailRoad store. If they are things like plaster, trees, leaves, paints (acrylic hobby type), glue, resin, etc I get a lot at places Michaels craft store.
heres a cool thread
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/74736&page=1
tutdiesel
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 04:13 AM UTC
Addressing the supplies issue, in my situation my hobby shop doesn't have "great" supplies for flaura and fauna. So I have resorted to my own backyard or nature in general to get things such as rocks, dirt, etc. So that is my two cents on how to get supplies that you just can't seem to find. My other suggestion is to check out the resources section as they give you some great hints and tricks on where to come accross supplies and some great basic "how to's" in the world of diorama construction.
Dee
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 06:09 AM UTC
ah, whats pva?
whodini
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 06:21 AM UTC
PVA is white glue.
Dee
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 06:32 AM UTC
okay, pva is white glue, but I think i've heard it also as wood glue, same thing?
slodder
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 06:36 AM UTC
Wood Glue and White Glue are similar but may have one difference - wood glue may dry yellow, while white glue dries semi transparent. Not a problem if you are going to paint it - just plan ahead.
I would go with Elmers white or Michaels has a good inexpensive hobby PVA in a gold squeeze bottle.
I would go with Elmers white or Michaels has a good inexpensive hobby PVA in a gold squeeze bottle.
Dee
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 07:21 AM UTC
oh, then how similar are ca to pva glues? Sorry, I know I've asked a lot of questions about glue.
Parks20
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 07:46 AM UTC
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oh, then how similar are ca to pva glues? Sorry, I know I've asked a lot of questions about glue.
Don't worry about asking questions. There are plenty of people here willing to answer them.
The difference between ca, and white glue is-
ca is used for bonding metal/brass parts to plastic. it can be used to fill gaps, then sanded smooth. ca is a super bonding glue that has lots of uses.
white glue is used more to secure landscaping to your base. or to bond wood parts togather. white glue will not bond plastic or metal parts.
hope this helps,
brian
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 07:52 AM UTC
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oh, then how similar are ca to pva glues? Sorry, I know I've asked a lot of questions about glue.
CA and PVA adhesives are not all that similar. Maybe the only similarity is them both being adhesives.
CA glue or super glue as mentioned above will bond instantly and is a pretty serious substance. It will stick your fingers (or any skin for that matter) together easily and sometimes has eye irritating fumes. Use it sparingly. Used mostly for resin and photo etch brass parts. Comes in all kinds of consistencies from very thin to gel.
White glue is relatively harmless and used mostly for clear parts likes lenses or windows because it'll dry clear. It is good for plaster building pieces and rubble for dioramas too.
As for all the questions, ASK AWAY! This site is full of talented guys that will answer questions all day long. I'm no expert by any means and I learn new things here all the time. Welcome!
Dee
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 09:11 AM UTC
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Don't worry about asking questions. There are plenty of people here willing to answer them.
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As for all the questions, ASK AWAY! This site is full of talented guys that will answer questions all day long. I'm no expert by any means and I learn new things here all the time. Welcome!
Good, and thanks, I feel very welcome. I probably will have many more questions to ask, so remember, YOU opened Pandora's box.
:-) 
WingTzun
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 09:39 AM UTC
Never be afraid to ask a question. If you don't know the answer, odds are some one else doesn't either but is afraid to ask. 
whodini
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:31 AM UTC
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okay, pva is white glue, but I think i've heard it also as wood glue, same thing?
Wood glue is slightly different in both bonding and colour. Of course it dries yellow, but I find the wood glue to dry better, more tacky and helps stick better, all while drying faster. It even glues styrofoam!
White glue is more flexible while dry, but isn't as strong as wood glue. Wood glue is more brittle when in thin layers. And other stuff that I can't remember...
Snowhand
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 01:01 AM UTC
White glue is also very good at stiffening textiles and paper without ill effects.
And don't ask about epoxy
( does anyone still use that anyway ? lol )
And don't ask about epoxy
( does anyone still use that anyway ? lol )
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 01:12 AM UTC
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White glue is also very good at stiffening textiles and paper without ill effects.
White glue is also water soluable. You really can't use it for palstics except as mentioned for glazing and lights where you don't want crazing. It will not hold other components together.
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And don't ask about epoxy
Figure guys use this extensively when a stronger bond is needed than CA will supply, such as large figures, or figures taht are posed in an off balance position.
whodini
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 01:24 AM UTC
I believe some people still use epoxy for glueing large resin parts together, such as joining 2 halves of a 1/32nd scale submarine's hull!
323k13l
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 05:10 AM UTC
hy dee im new too but i know a couple of good info lol from reading my information books and my brother...........tell me if u want my email address or somethen im not a pro but if u want we can exchange tips???
simon
Dee
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 05:28 AM UTC
simon, why don't you just post them on the forums so that way everyone here can get ideas and tips too.
323k13l
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 12:31 AM UTC
yeah good idea but there all little beginner tipps lol and dont go for every scale
simon
lol and dont go for every scale simon
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 12:48 AM UTC
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yeah good idea but there all little beginner tipps
simon
Beginner tips are good. A lot of us have been doing this so long, we don't even think about how we started cutting corners and developing new akills. We just always did certain things.
As to going for every scale, who knows what can be adapted.
323k13l
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 03:07 AM UTC
i remember a realy good method my brother taught me went u want to attach ur figures to a dio first u take a needle, cut it with tweezers about half lenght ,heat the needle with a candle then with tweezers you pick the needle throught the foot of the fig,or on wat ever part is going to touch the dio , use styro foam to fold up the figure this is a good way to hold it too went u are painting it!! p.s that isnt a bigginer trick
simon
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 03:51 AM UTC
That's the spirit, Simon —
It is good to keep in mind that we have hundreds of
modelers join the Big A every year. Many of them are
beginners and so it is good to have basic hints and
tips explained here from time to time. There is always
someone new coming on board, every day.
It is good to keep in mind that we have hundreds of
modelers join the Big A every year. Many of them are
beginners and so it is good to have basic hints and
tips explained here from time to time. There is always
someone new coming on board, every day.
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