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celluclay in canada
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 08:22 PM UTC
Where can I get this in Canada (Vancouver)? Would this be the "best", less toxic way (water based) of making raised ground work?
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 08:50 PM UTC
I dont know if its celluclay
but I got this great alternative here in holland
here its called reparatie pasta
its used by painters to fill gaps n stuff
you can work it with a toothbrush and sculping tools you get good effects
hope this helps here in holland I can buy it in a normal painting shop![](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/happy.gif)
but I got this great alternative here in holland
here its called reparatie pasta
its used by painters to fill gaps n stuff
you can work it with a toothbrush and sculping tools you get good effects
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hope this helps here in holland I can buy it in a normal painting shop
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 12:15 AM UTC
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The "reparatie-pasta" where zero is talking about is sold under the name wallspackle in the DIY shops Check it out there or ask for it I`m sure they could help you out there
The "reparatie-pasta" where zero is talking about is sold under the name wallspackle in the DIY shops Check it out there or ask for it I`m sure they could help you out there
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 03:29 AM UTC
Hi Godfather
Wall spackle, gyp-rock mud, wallboard plaster etc etc, is what we call that stuff over here. Its dirt cheap, i got a huge bucket at canadian tire for 3.50. The problem with building up thick layers of it is that is shrinks and cracks when it dries, especially if u use thick coats. And really thick coats won't dry at all, just form hard crust on top and still be wet days after. So use thin coats and it will reduce cracking and will dry quickly. But it is easy to patch and sand so u can fix cracks or start over very easily. If you are building a bunker or stone fence its better to use a base of wood/foam etc, and coat it with the plaster, then sand or scribe it the way u want it and paint.
Wall spackle, gyp-rock mud, wallboard plaster etc etc, is what we call that stuff over here. Its dirt cheap, i got a huge bucket at canadian tire for 3.50. The problem with building up thick layers of it is that is shrinks and cracks when it dries, especially if u use thick coats. And really thick coats won't dry at all, just form hard crust on top and still be wet days after. So use thin coats and it will reduce cracking and will dry quickly. But it is easy to patch and sand so u can fix cracks or start over very easily. If you are building a bunker or stone fence its better to use a base of wood/foam etc, and coat it with the plaster, then sand or scribe it the way u want it and paint.
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:14 AM UTC
Most craft and model shops sell Celluclay in Canada......try Imperial Hobbies in Richmond.......Burnaby Hobbies might also carry it but they are a small store so maybe call 1st.
Imperial might be your best bet...if you've never been there go when you can spend some time looking around....they have everything!!!! Huge store too. Great guys who work there too.
Imperial might be your best bet...if you've never been there go when you can spend some time looking around....they have everything!!!! Huge store too. Great guys who work there too.
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:39 AM UTC
Is Celluclay the same as Grumbachers Modelling Clay? This is really a paper mache type product. I mix this up with water and white glue and it works better than spackle. You have much better control over consistency. But, it does take longer to dry.
I have not had any cracking probs. But, I use sealed wood when building up more than an inch of modelling clay.
Grumbachers is readily available at most Arts and Crafts stores, btw.
I have not had any cracking probs. But, I use sealed wood when building up more than an inch of modelling clay.
Grumbachers is readily available at most Arts and Crafts stores, btw.
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 08:31 AM UTC
As previously stated, you can get Celluclay at most hobby shops. You can also get it at Michaels and Lewiscraft. A low tech substitute is to acquire some shedded paper from a crosscut shredder. The kind that shreds into little bits. Mix with some dry wallpaper paste and water, and presto... celluclay.
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:43 AM UTC
Yes Celluclay is a paper mache product....as well as being easier to use than spackle and other types of things mentioned....it's also less messy......and when dry it's lighter in weight which is good if your diorama is bigger.
I add a lot of white glue to the Celluclay when I mix it and also add some dried paint powder....brown usually...so that if you miss a spot when painting...it's not so noticable.
The white glue stops it from curling up and away from your base which does happen...I know because I didn't put enough in the last batch and now there is a space between the base and the ground....not sure how to fix this.
I add a lot of white glue to the Celluclay when I mix it and also add some dried paint powder....brown usually...so that if you miss a spot when painting...it's not so noticable.
The white glue stops it from curling up and away from your base which does happen...I know because I didn't put enough in the last batch and now there is a space between the base and the ground....not sure how to fix this.
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:53 AM UTC
Dio-If the space is at the edge of your "dio" and not too thick perhaps you can trim it off with a x-acto knife?
I usually "stab" the wood of my base (before sealing) with a screw driver. This creates some "divots" for the celly clay to "grip" I don't know if this applies to your problem or not...
I usually "stab" the wood of my base (before sealing) with a screw driver. This creates some "divots" for the celly clay to "grip" I don't know if this applies to your problem or not...
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 07:29 PM UTC
It's a 1/16th Dragon plastic figure base....I use an x-acto knife and do some deep crosses on the top....but if you don't use enough glue it does curl up....I ran out and was in the middle of it and assumed it would be OK...I was wrong.
For my figure bases I bring the ground right up to the edge so no...trimming it back won't work......I will have to fill it with something....wouldn't you know....it's on the front too....couldn't be the back!!! Murphy's law strikes again!!!
For my figure bases I bring the ground right up to the edge so no...trimming it back won't work......I will have to fill it with something....wouldn't you know....it's on the front too....couldn't be the back!!! Murphy's law strikes again!!!
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Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 01:08 AM UTC
Micheals is the place I have seen celluclay.
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Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 05:52 AM UTC
why dont you guys make your own "celluclay" dont you remember primary school?
i make papier mache .out of old newspapers diluted..white glue.. and a spot of washing up liquid...better than buying stuff like celluclay. works just as well. and it saves you money which you can spend on other more important stuff......
REGARDS.......
i make papier mache .out of old newspapers diluted..white glue.. and a spot of washing up liquid...better than buying stuff like celluclay. works just as well. and it saves you money which you can spend on other more important stuff......
REGARDS.......
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2003 - 06:26 AM UTC
Well deakon , need to buy a lot of newspaper for paper mache.
Here I use pollyfilla a type of plaster to fill in wall cracks. just mix it with water.
Here I use pollyfilla a type of plaster to fill in wall cracks. just mix it with water.
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Posted: Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:18 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:30 AM UTC
I saw Celluclay in our local and only hobby shop here in Victoria. A 1lb. block was $11.00. A bit of a rip off i think
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:45 AM UTC
I saw it yesterday in Lewiscraft, also in the 10 dollar range.
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