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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Chicken wire Sherman?
catman31
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:38 PM UTC
How do you make chicken wire in 1/35 scale to simulate the counter measures taken against anti-tank weapons during WWII? I think that's why it was used, right? John Rosengrant had a great example of what I mean in his diorama a few months back "Calm before the storm."

Thanks,
Felix
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:45 PM UTC
Finding the actual hex design might be tricky, but wedding veil would look close enough. Hobby Lobby, Micheal's, and similar places sell it dirt cheap.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:47 PM UTC
Pick up some stuff called tule or wedding veil material at a fabric store. Paint this steel or rust it up. (Don't worry, you won't be the first modeler in a fabric store-we figure guys get the backdrops for our displays there all the time.
Henk
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:00 PM UTC

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Don't worry, you won't be the first modeler in a fabric store-we figure guys get the backdrops for our displays there all the time.



Nevermind a fabric store.. I keep getting funny looks when I buy duster brushes at the make-up counter... :-) :-)
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:32 PM UTC
What about those little net bags that Garlic comes in E.T.C. ?? Could work! you can actually stretch and shape that to a hex shape, Just a thought. It hurt though :-)

redleg
mj
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:36 PM UTC

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Don't worry, you won't be the first modeler in a fabric store-we figure guys get the backdrops for our displays there all the time.



Nevermind a fabric store.. I keep getting funny looks when I buy duster brushes at the make-up counter... :-) :-)



Or nail polish remover in cosmetics....

Mike

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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:41 PM UTC
Hi Felix: The addition of chicken wire was done to allow the crews to add foliage, fauna & branches to their vehicles for camo purposes. The use of tulle does work well for 1/35 scale. S Zaloga had an article about how one unit did it in Normandy. It was a uniform, unit wide application. They welded horizontal rods onto the tank hull and then spot welded the wire to the rods, giving the wire a half inch or so of clearance from the hull surface. This allowed branches and leaves to be stuffed in and removed as necessary.

Remember that veteran crews would try not to use leaves that turned brown quickly -- or else they were replaced with freshly cut ones.
catman31
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:55 PM UTC
Thanks guys for the information. Very useful. Off to the fabric store I suppose :-)
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Posted: Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:10 AM UTC

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Hi Felix: The addition of chicken wire was done to allow the crews to add foliage, fauna & branches to their vehicles for camo purposes.



Can't help but picturing the little critters struggling to break free of the chicken wire.
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Posted: Monday, May 15, 2006 - 04:30 AM UTC
I working on a Dragon M4A3(76)W detailed with this field modification right now. My Household Six found some "dress sizing" of the appropriate pattern and size a few years ago and when the Dragon kit came out I knew it was time to get the stuff out. Concord's "The Sherman at War (2)" by Steve Zaloga has some nice photos and color plates of these Shermans. The screen was called "Sommerfield matting."

Right, Don. (Roy -- look up "fauna" to find the critters Don is ribbing you about.)
ericadeane
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Posted: Monday, May 15, 2006 - 04:47 AM UTC
Fauna: LOL I didn't realize that I have been totally misusing that word. :-)
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Posted: Monday, May 15, 2006 - 08:07 AM UTC

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Nevermind a fabric store.. I keep getting funny looks when I buy duster brushes at the make-up counter...


That's the nice thing about my wife being a Mary Kay Lady (sales rep). I can pilfer them in the privacy of my own home :-) :-)
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Posted: Monday, May 15, 2006 - 08:14 PM UTC
Felix, PM me with your address and I will send you enough to do your Sherman. I have Sommerfield matting I got off the net somewhere - but its perfect. I see you're in NC like me and I'll drop int he mail 1st class. Just an offer if you're interested.

Chris
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