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Modern Armor Campaign: Warrior in Bosnia
seb43
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Paris, France
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Posted: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 03:53 PM UTC
Dear All
Finally before going away for business i submit my contribution 99 % finish (missing the antenna) and some painting on the tools

My Warrior in Bosnia
Really really hard to paint an AFV in white first and last time.

Cheers Seb








Tomek_K
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Wojewodztwo Dolnoslaskie, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:02 AM UTC
Nice looking Warrior you've done Sebastien.
And your trees looks very realistic.
I like vehicles in white and maybe some day I have the courage to build one.
seb43
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 02:51 AM UTC
Well Tomek
I need to be honest with all of you
trees are bonzais trees that died during the winter
because i'm a bonzai freek i keep the one that died for the dio
best tree ever are the real one
cheers
seb
dexter059
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Region de Valparaiso, Chile
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 03:58 AM UTC
That Warrior looks good Seb, agree in painting wehicles in white, itīs hard to get the right look in that colour.

Cheers
Murdo
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 04:01 AM UTC
Lovely job mate.
jazza
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 04:32 AM UTC
Great job buddy. Can see that it can be hard painting a kit thats meant to be entirely white in colour.

Does anyone know what colour to use when applying a wash to kits that are white in colour?

Great job on completing the campaign however.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 06:12 AM UTC
Hello Seb,
Good for you for finishing your UN Warrior. I agree that a white painted vehicle is hard to weather. Having very good reference images and being willing to experiment are two of the required pieces.

I try to use the same basics for painting white vehicles as painting any single colour...neutral base colour, then pre-shading, then base colour, then initial airbrush weathering to add dust and dirt and fade the base colour from the ground upwards, then a pin point wash, then dry brushing, then pigments and pastels. Of course details need to be painted, paint chipping, scuff and wear marks, and optics need all to be added.

I noticed that you did not mount the add-on armour to the sides or glacis plate. All of the Warriors I saw in Bosnia had the armour mounted. Any reason for not mounting the armour?

You should give it another try on a white UN vehicle. They are unique and there's lots of subjects to choose from.
seb43
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Paris, France
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Posted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 02:45 PM UTC
Dear All
Thanks for the kind comment
Well concerning the painting i did 2 times
1- Preshading in Nato green and then White but i was able to see the green pattern
i was not happy with the result i decide to remove everything
2- Completly white no base coat.
then paint chipping in nato green.
Wash with black very very dilute 5-95 thinner.
Dry brush with a normal pencil to give a metalic aspect on the edge and some dots of Smoke for the grease and oil traces.
But really really hard to have a good result and i'm not happy yet with the result

I will probably an other UN AFV in the future

@ Jason, i did not use the Add-on armour because i wanted to depict the Warrior exaclty like the one in the BBC movie i did post a question on armour or not in UN service before here.



Cheers
Seb
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Friday, May 26, 2006 - 09:07 AM UTC
I was actually going to say that the only Warriors I have seen in white without the add-on armour were in the 1999 BBC TV movie "Warriors".

I remember you posting the question. So that makes your Warrior accurate for the made for the TV movie but not for real life in Bosnia.
seb43
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Paris, France
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Posted: Monday, May 29, 2006 - 02:11 PM UTC
Dear Jason
Concerning the Add-armour, we allready discussed that here and in 1992-93 Warrior were not fitted with add armour in UN service, there is thread with picture

With or With out Add-on Armour

not really clear

cheers
seb
Erik67
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Posted: Monday, May 29, 2006 - 02:41 PM UTC

Quoted Text

in 1992-93 Warrior were not fitted with add armour in UN service, there is thread with picture



???

I might have missed something, but all the pictures and posts by the members shows UN Warriors with add-on armour. To my knowledge Warriors have never been deployed on a combat/UN mission without add-on armour. Due to peacetime- and road regulations the extra armour is removed when the vehicles are stationed in UK or Germany. But then again, I might have missed something...

Erik
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 08:06 AM UTC
It seems really clear to me. All of the links provided show the UNPROFOR Warriors deployed to Bosnia with the add-on armour.

The movie "Warriors" was not filmed in Bosnia. It is not accurate as the Warriors do not have the add-on armour. The movie is good inspiration for your project but not technically accurate....the movie was filmed in the Czech Republic in 1999...sorry if you didn't know that.
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