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Dumb Question...What is an M-60?
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 06:57 AM UTC
I know this may be a dumb question but I have seen model kits calling an M-60 a "Patton". I thought that the Patton tank was an M48 to M48A3. So my question is is the M-60 also named for General Patton?
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 06:59 AM UTC
The Patton series covered the M-48 through the M-60 series.
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:22 AM UTC
Actually, the name Patton referred to the M-46, M-47, M48 (all variants, A0 to A5), and M-60 (again, all variants A0 to A3). Although when conversing with tank crews, M-60 series tanks were rarely, if ever referred to as "Pattons". When I worked with the various M-60 series tanks, the M-60 was called the "Slick 60", M-60A1s were called "A-Ones" and M60A3TTSs were referred to as just "60s" or "A-Threes". I never had the chance to work with M60A2s.
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:35 AM UTC
This post does bring up the question - I know that every piece of equipment has the potential to have the same designation (M1 Rifle, M1 Tank).
But - What about the 'Friendly' name - Is the Patton the only one that spans call number designations? Are there others out there? Know what I just answered my own question - The Stuart M3 and M5.
What are others?
But - What about the 'Friendly' name - Is the Patton the only one that spans call number designations? Are there others out there? Know what I just answered my own question - The Stuart M3 and M5.
What are others?
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 09:28 AM UTC
Bradley M-2 and M-3 come to mind. The Patton series is unique in some ways, as it was a long line of continuously developed and improved vehicles, all based off of the highly successful T-26E3 Chassis and the Pershing. These were the test beds for the Patton M46, etc.
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 09:30 AM UTC
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Actually, the name Patton referred to the M-46, M-47, M48 (all variants, A0 to A5), and M-60 (again, all variants A0 to A3). Although when conversing with tank crews, M-60 series tanks were rarely, if ever referred to as "Pattons". When I worked with the various M-60 series tanks, the M-60 was called the "Slick 60", M-60A1s were called "A-Ones" and M60A3TTSs were referred to as just "60s" or "A-Threes". I never had the chance to work with M60A2s.
Rob - the two tankers I spoke with when I built my M60A2 told me they called them "A-Twos" - contrary to what writers pen about them called "Starships". They indicated that they never called the M60 series "Pattons" too.
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:29 AM UTC
Hmmm.... I thought the M-48's were called Walker "Bulldogs"...
Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:34 AM UTC
I think the Walker Bulldog was called the M41
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:55 AM UTC
D'OH! Yep, my bad... It was the M41...
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 02:41 PM UTC
Ref the post from slodder, the M-60 is also known as a machine gun where I'm from
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 03:11 PM UTC
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Ref the post from slodder, the M-60 is also known as a machine gun where I'm from
Russ
...and we called that "The Pig".
Re: M1...
That nomenclature goes on and on... Steel Pot, Garand, Carbine, Thompson....
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 03:23 PM UTC
It's never boring around here - I love reading these posts. You go through all these technical docs and reference material and here it comes to life. Gotta love it.
Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 05:08 PM UTC
Is there a list anywhere, where all these "M" numbers are listed out in ascending order.
It would be quite cool to all of them together. Maybe ths would not exist as a single list as some items are from different time eras! Just sounds interesting! MMMMMMMmmmmmmm!
It would be quite cool to all of them together. Maybe ths would not exist as a single list as some items are from different time eras! Just sounds interesting! MMMMMMMmmmmmmm!
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 05:58 PM UTC
.... also heard of the M-60 MG referred to as the "hump" ....
I have heard the M-60 tank referred to as the "Patton" when I was in the 2nd Armored Division (Forward) in Garlstredt in the early 80s. When "the movie "Patton" was showed at the post theater, we all howled because all the "Germans" were driving M-48s, also called "Pattons" ..
I have heard the M-60 tank referred to as the "Patton" when I was in the 2nd Armored Division (Forward) in Garlstredt in the early 80s. When "the movie "Patton" was showed at the post theater, we all howled because all the "Germans" were driving M-48s, also called "Pattons" ..
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 06:05 AM UTC
Very few vehicles are designed well enough to soldier for more than a decade maybe two. Another long term tank was the Centurion which carried numbers A41 through I think MK13. weopons of war are quickly made obsolete by wepons designed to kill them. the longest running series if you include forein modifications is the sherman with designations from M4 -M51 is still in use by the Chileans, whose M50's now carry the IMI 60mm HV gun. capable I'm told of taking out a M60.
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:12 AM UTC
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When "the movie "Patton" was showed at the post theater, we all howled because all the "Germans" were driving M-48s, also called "Pattons" ..
My reaction as well way back in 1970! Omar Bradley was the tehnical advisor. He must have been laughing his butt off at that.
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 01:41 PM UTC
[quote].... also heard of the M-60 MG referred to as the "hump" ....quote]
Yeah... I had to 'hump' that thang many times. Kicked my arse it did too. But in my day, you couldn't beat it's firepower at the squad level.
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Kevin Keefe
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Yeah... I had to 'hump' that thang many times. Kicked my arse it did too. But in my day, you couldn't beat it's firepower at the squad level.
Thanks,
Kevin Keefe
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Posted: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:37 AM UTC
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Is there a list anywhere, where all these "M" numbers are listed out in ascending order.
while surfing on the net, I found this link:
http://www.jed.simonides.org
this is a beautiful site