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Salt Technique, Work With Enamels?
osjohnm
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Posted: Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 01:33 PM UTC
Hi all

I've read a couple of threads regarding this technique(never used it before) and thebear explained it in great detail to me as well.

I've noticed that most of the time acrylic paints are being sprayed over the salt and I use enamel paints.

Can I use the technique with enamel paints?

If so, once the enamel paint has dried, would a rough paint brush still remove the salt/paint or would I have to use something else?

Thanks
John
NebLWeffah
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Posted: Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 08:57 PM UTC
Hi:
In my earlier thread regarding this technique and about the problems I was having, it seems that acrylic paints are not the thing to use, as they are water based and the salt can be dissolved and absorbed into the paint being added thereby reacting with it and, in my case, changing it's colour somewhat. The recommendations made to me by a few where to use enamel paints for this techinique.

I had no choice but to 'go with it' after I sprayed Tamiya acrylic over the salt that was added to a Pollyscale base coat. The effect looks like swirls of lighter top coat colour arround the places where the salt was. The actual chipping effect worked great, just the 'added surprise bonus' of bizarre colour changes. Oh well, I'm chalking it up to experience and trying to make it all look good after filters, washes and additional weathering.

My advice....use enamels.

cheers
Bob
05Sultan
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Posted: Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 09:12 PM UTC
Yes,enamels are fine and preferred for this technique.To expose the 'rust', a pick tool usually does the job. partial exposure can be done to get a very decrepit "bubbled rust" look.
Have fun!
USMarine
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 01:54 PM UTC
so the salt weatering techinque is when you put salt on the model and airbrush paint over it and then take the salt away and theres your chipped paint effect -is that right,i am a little confused


matt
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:53 PM UTC
There is also another technique, where you use an enamel base, then spray acrylic over it. When the acrylic is starting to dry, washing powder is brushed on to the corners and where you want chips. The washing powder lifts the paint in these spots and then the model is rinsed quickly with cool water. The effect is similar, but maybe harder to control. The big advantage is, if you do mess it up, add more washing powder or alcohol or alcohol based cleaners and take away all the acrylic coat.
See here for an explanation by Fredrik Lundbeck
osjohnm
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 07:25 PM UTC
Thanks for all the responses.

Does Tamiya make a pick tool?

Must I let the enamel topcoat dry completely before I attempt to remove the salt?

Thanks
05Sultan
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2006 - 08:27 PM UTC
A nail will do.paper clip,etc. I would let the paint dry completely(2-3 days),then have at it.

Generally speaking, it's prime,paint your under rust color where you want it(enamel),let dry, dab your salt on it,let dry,paint enamel top coat,let dry,pick salt away to suit,weather some more.

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