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Humbrol metaliser paints
Pilgrim
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Posted: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 01:49 PM UTC
I've just tried using these and it didn't go too well - I had trouble getting them to adhere to what I was painting (which had a dry surface of Vallejo matt acrylic varnish) and they didn't seem to thin with Humbrol enamel thinner. Can anyone provide, or point me to, a completely basic guide to using these paints?

Ta.


Sean
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Posted: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 02:18 PM UTC
Hi Sean,

They can be funny devils to work with but you can get superb results.

The problem that you have is that you used ordinary thinner, they need cellulose to succesfully thin them down. I always stir the tinlets well and then transfer a quantity onto a plastic food lid. Then using the cellulose thin the paint until it is about the consistancy of milk.

As you paint the surface, it is important that you watch and add a little more thinner to keep it flowing as it will thicken quite rapidly due to evaporation. If you dont do this you will see that it is not easy to apply as it tends to cease flowing.

My method is to avoid going over the same patch on the componant, build the paint up in thin layers and once happy with the result allow it to dry fully. Buff the surface withy a cotton bud and reapply the paint in another layer if you feel that it is not as thick a covering as you like.

With practice it gives superb results. You should also clean your brushes with cellulose thinner. I do believe that this is mentioned on the tin. If you thin it really well it will also airbrush really well.

John
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Posted: Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 11:23 AM UTC
Thanks John,

I'll try the cellulose thinner. Does this work OK on a coat of Klear? Is there any chance of the cellulose attacking the pain beneath?


Sean
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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:08 AM UTC
Sean,

I dont have any experience at that, but the cellulose evaporates so quickly and from my experience of Kleer on my boots, ammonia was what I had to use to remove it.

You could try it on a piece of scrap, even some sprue and see how it goes. Dip in Klear, allow to dry and paint on and polish.

I would be interested to hear of any results.

Regards,

John
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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:32 AM UTC

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Sean,

I dont have any experience at that, but the cellulose evaporates so quickly and from my experience of Kleer on my boots, ammonia was what I had to use to remove it.

Regards,

John



Using Kleer on your boots... Absolutely disgraceful. Never heard the likes in all me born days!

:-) :-) :-)
jlmurc
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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006 - 04:13 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

Sean,

I dont have any experience at that, but the cellulose evaporates so quickly and from my experience of Kleer on my boots, ammonia was what I had to use to remove it.

Regards,

John



Using Kleer on your boots... Absolutely disgraceful. Never heard the likes in all me born days!

:-) :-) :-)



Well it is a bit of a trade secret, which if you are honest you will certainly know about Murdo..............now be honest

John
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Murdo
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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:41 PM UTC
Umm......... :-)
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