Hey Gang,
Anyone ever tries to aribursh Mig pigment? Is it possible? Should I add Terpenoid? If you have, please let me know!! Post the result pics if possible
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!
WC
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Using Airbrush With Mig Pigment??
WildCard
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 05:23 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 05:32 AM UTC
If you do decide to spray Mig Pigments through your airbrush, you are a braver man than I.
Nah seriously i have heard of modellers doing it before however me personally i prefer to use a paint brush to apply so that i can control exactly where i think mud and weathering should occur.
All of my kits in my gallery are all applied via paint brush.
Nah seriously i have heard of modellers doing it before however me personally i prefer to use a paint brush to apply so that i can control exactly where i think mud and weathering should occur.
All of my kits in my gallery are all applied via paint brush.
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 05:39 AM UTC
I have done it using an OLD airbrush. I used Tamiya thinner. It was a bear to clean up. but the spraying did work. Im not sure just spraying paint would have given the same effect! :-)
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 07:32 AM UTC
Uhmmm, let's step back a minute and look at this scenario,shall we?
What you are doing by shooting pigments and solvents through an AB is equal to shooting your own brand of home made crude paint,no binders,drying agents,propellants,preservatives,etchants,and secret ingrediants to get in the way.
Soooooooo,yes you will probably get a unique effect by using the pigments this way. Wether it is something you desire is up to you,at the expense of time to clean your AB with the usual expenditure of solvents and cleaning agents.
I'd like to suggest that the same effects can be done by hand,using traditional artist tools,to a greater visual effect,with greater enjoyment and satisfaction of accomplishment,and using far less materials and time to clean up. Use the AB for paints and coatings made to be shot.
It's just a suggestion...
cheers
What you are doing by shooting pigments and solvents through an AB is equal to shooting your own brand of home made crude paint,no binders,drying agents,propellants,preservatives,etchants,and secret ingrediants to get in the way.
Soooooooo,yes you will probably get a unique effect by using the pigments this way. Wether it is something you desire is up to you,at the expense of time to clean your AB with the usual expenditure of solvents and cleaning agents.
I'd like to suggest that the same effects can be done by hand,using traditional artist tools,to a greater visual effect,with greater enjoyment and satisfaction of accomplishment,and using far less materials and time to clean up. Use the AB for paints and coatings made to be shot.
It's just a suggestion...
cheers
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 08:46 AM UTC
Guys, I'm gonna gun it! I will let you guys know the result. If crap hits the fan you will hear me whine on this forum
WC
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 08:52 AM UTC
Well...According to the airbrush you use; some pigments will work, some will not..
As for your risk; I say...Go for it & goodluck!
What should the viscosity be for the mix?
70(Pigment)/30(Turpentide)?
As for your risk; I say...Go for it & goodluck!
What should the viscosity be for the mix?
70(Pigment)/30(Turpentide)?
WildCard
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 08:55 AM UTC
Quoted Text
What should the viscosity be for the mix?
70(Pigment)/30(Turpentide)?
That sounds about right...maybe a little more Turpentine.
WC
Mig_Jimenez
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Posted: Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 03:45 PM UTC
Hello
I DON'T recomend to anyone to use pure pigments in an airbrush. EVen if the Mig Pigments is really fine grain (more than some standard normal paints), the problem with the pigments is the next one:
To be sprayed a pigment, it must be very well mixed with a thinner and with an aglutinant. Only Industrial machines can mix very well the pigment with the liquid, to avoid small bubbles with only powder inside the whole mix.
A normal person cannot mix the powder like a machine in a factory, so....you can find a risk if you use your own mix in your airbrush. If any of the POWDER BUBBLE stay in our airbrush, you will find that the Airbrush will work bad.
I repeat: is not because it is powder, is because the "mix".
In another hand, the pigment technic try to simulate and to represent some special effects in a model. The airbrush represent another different ones.
Then, why to use one technic like another one??? in that case, is ebtter to use already prepared acrylic paints or enamels, and you will get the same effect (maybe not the same color)
And Airbrush technic is top get very soft effects, very regular and simetrical effects.
The Pigments technics try to represent very randow and natural effects, like the real mud or moved dust (dust modifed by the rain or the crew)
Well, just my 2 cents.
I hope to help with this.
SIncerily
Mig Jimenez
I DON'T recomend to anyone to use pure pigments in an airbrush. EVen if the Mig Pigments is really fine grain (more than some standard normal paints), the problem with the pigments is the next one:
To be sprayed a pigment, it must be very well mixed with a thinner and with an aglutinant. Only Industrial machines can mix very well the pigment with the liquid, to avoid small bubbles with only powder inside the whole mix.
A normal person cannot mix the powder like a machine in a factory, so....you can find a risk if you use your own mix in your airbrush. If any of the POWDER BUBBLE stay in our airbrush, you will find that the Airbrush will work bad.
I repeat: is not because it is powder, is because the "mix".
In another hand, the pigment technic try to simulate and to represent some special effects in a model. The airbrush represent another different ones.
Then, why to use one technic like another one??? in that case, is ebtter to use already prepared acrylic paints or enamels, and you will get the same effect (maybe not the same color)
And Airbrush technic is top get very soft effects, very regular and simetrical effects.
The Pigments technics try to represent very randow and natural effects, like the real mud or moved dust (dust modifed by the rain or the crew)
Well, just my 2 cents.
I hope to help with this.
SIncerily
Mig Jimenez
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Posted: Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:38 AM UTC
I have tried and liked it. But I uses my Aztec 470 with the black nozzle so bigger opening. You have to remember to continually stir the mix so that it stays suspended. I used water and also used tamiya thinner. Would I do this through my iwata probably not as a replacement nozzle of the Aztec is cheap compared to getting any residue out of the iwata body.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:03 AM UTC
I did use Migs Ash White for my white wash ona German tank. I thought it would be easier to make it worn this way, since its easy to remove, which it is. I used a combination of damp, not wet, but damp cotton swabs and paint brushes to remove the white parts as desired. It was quite easy. The biggest problem I had was trying to figure out that the brushes only needed to be slightly damp, since the pigments act like a sponge and soaked up the water from the brushes ruining what I wanted.