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Hanomag Sd. Kfz. 251/1
blah
Joined: January 18, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 04:53 AM UTC
i picked out a hanomag for my first model, i painted most parts of the soldiers already, and did them in the common field grey(strange that they call it grey when it looks green) ive tried to find pics of one but all i see is it in desert camo. does anybody know what colors the hanomags were in the eastern front?
generalzod
Joined: December 01, 2001
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 04:58 AM UTC
Up until February 1943 they were painted Panzer Gray After that the base coat was dark yellow Which kit do you have ? The 251/1c or the 251/1d?
Rhino
Joined: August 29, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 05:07 AM UTC
You actually have quite a few choices here, depending on the time period you want to feature. The common dark grey, in the earlier years to the German yellow of the later years. Most paint lines feature a listing such as German Grey, German Armor Yellow etc.
Also there were many camoflage variations, that you can add if you so desired. Red Brown and Green over the yellow, or just one of the two over the yellow were common, and of course a white was was quite common during the winter.
These are just basic ideas, and much more exacting information can be found just browsing the web, in hobby magazines, and the many books available. There seems to be no shortage on German WWII information. How accurate you want to be is all part of the fun, welcome to a great hobby!!
Also there were many camoflage variations, that you can add if you so desired. Red Brown and Green over the yellow, or just one of the two over the yellow were common, and of course a white was was quite common during the winter.
These are just basic ideas, and much more exacting information can be found just browsing the web, in hobby magazines, and the many books available. There seems to be no shortage on German WWII information. How accurate you want to be is all part of the fun, welcome to a great hobby!!
screamingeagle
Joined: January 08, 2002
KitMaker: 1,027 posts
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:40 AM UTC
Hi blah ............. I alway's keep an abundant stock of photo's for reference for my model's.
These excellent restoration's are as good a match as they looked back in W.W.II, if your halftrack is being portrayed as a vehicle after Feb.1943.
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As for the uniform issue of "field-grey " ( feldgrau ) ........ there where many different variations as you can see a great example of this difference in the photo below. - The field-grey tunic, which is actually "grey " and the field gray einheitsfeldmutze ( standard field cap ) which is a green-grey shade. There were other similiar lighter & darker variations as well. This is why, when I paint my German figures, I gather as much reference as I can to the Waffen SS or Wehrmacht unit that I'm portarying and their uniforms. ........... " yes, I really am that fussy ! " ( lol ) .......... " really ! "
- ralph
These excellent restoration's are as good a match as they looked back in W.W.II, if your halftrack is being portrayed as a vehicle after Feb.1943.
As for the uniform issue of "field-grey " ( feldgrau ) ........ there where many different variations as you can see a great example of this difference in the photo below. - The field-grey tunic, which is actually "grey " and the field gray einheitsfeldmutze ( standard field cap ) which is a green-grey shade. There were other similiar lighter & darker variations as well. This is why, when I paint my German figures, I gather as much reference as I can to the Waffen SS or Wehrmacht unit that I'm portarying and their uniforms. ........... " yes, I really am that fussy ! " ( lol ) .......... " really ! "
- ralph
BornToDig
Joined: December 25, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 07:15 AM UTC
Just a quick suggestion to you Blah.
Since you're a beginning modeler I'm assuming you don't have an airbrush, but maybe I'm wrong. However, if you dont have an airbrush than stay well clear of using Tamiya paints for your finish, they are notoriously bad for hand painting. With that said here is a list of the colors you may want to pick up
For pre-1943
Model MAsteter Shwartzgrau (german grey)
For 1943-1945
Modelmaster dunkelgelb (for the yellow basecoat)
Polly S Dark Green and whatever they call their red brown for the camo - if you do want camo
Ralph
Since you're a beginning modeler I'm assuming you don't have an airbrush, but maybe I'm wrong. However, if you dont have an airbrush than stay well clear of using Tamiya paints for your finish, they are notoriously bad for hand painting. With that said here is a list of the colors you may want to pick up
For pre-1943
Model MAsteter Shwartzgrau (german grey)
For 1943-1945
Modelmaster dunkelgelb (for the yellow basecoat)
Polly S Dark Green and whatever they call their red brown for the camo - if you do want camo
Ralph
blah
Joined: January 18, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 07:26 AM UTC
thanks everybody 
hworth18
Joined: January 10, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 03:10 PM UTC
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Hi blah ............. I alway's keep an abundant stock of photo's for reference for my model's.
These excellent restoration's are as good a match as they looked back in W.W.II, if your halftrack is being portrayed as a vehicle after Feb.1943.
As for the uniform issue of "field-grey " ( feldgrau ) ........ there where many different variations as you can see a great example of this difference in the photo below. - The field-grey tunic, which is actually "grey " and the field gray einheitsfeldmutze ( standard field cap ) which is a green-grey shade. There were other similiar lighter & darker variations as well. This is why, when I paint my German figures, I gather as much reference as I can to the Waffen SS or Wehrmacht unit that I'm portarying and their uniforms. ........... " yes, I really am that fussy ! " ( lol ) .......... " really ! "
- ralph
Wow!! Ralph.. Those are great photos.. Do you have others of German AFVs and do you have a site where we can check them out???
Thanks, Harry :-)
screamingeagle
Joined: January 08, 2002
KitMaker: 1,027 posts
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 04:41 PM UTC
Hi Harry, I always manage to save any photo's, when I'm looking up reference or cross-referencing it, especially of U.S. & German militaria in regards to or from W.W.II.
Restoration's articles on the internet contain excellent armored vehicle's in color, usually restored to their W.W.II likeness. .....you need something in particular just send me an email I'd be glad to send you what you need alongs I have it. I think it's best to save photo's like I mentioned whenever we can, because in this hobby your most likely going to need them sooner or later
Restoration's articles on the internet contain excellent armored vehicle's in color, usually restored to their W.W.II likeness. .....you need something in particular just send me an email I'd be glad to send you what you need alongs I have it. I think it's best to save photo's like I mentioned whenever we can, because in this hobby your most likely going to need them sooner or later
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