Rob I just have a quick question. As I was looking over my kit I noticed the Main gun has a spring too it, any info on what this spring will let you do with the model?
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Ric_Cody
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:40 AM UTC
BroAbrams
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:27 AM UTC
Rick, the spring allows the main gun to recoil a little. It doesn't really do much of anything of use to a purest modeller.
By the way, these are just the small gallery images, the full size ones are in my gallery.
By the way, these are just the small gallery images, the full size ones are in my gallery.
Epi
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:04 PM UTC
Rob,
I'm about where you are at on my kit. I have the hull together and the turret with the barrel. I went ahead and used the plastic barrel. I have the bustle rack and extended bustle rack done along with some bits and peices on the turret.
I have a Voyager photo etch set for the Tamiya Abrams and I am gonna see if I can use anything to spruce up the Dragon kit.
I'm about where you are at on my kit. I have the hull together and the turret with the barrel. I went ahead and used the plastic barrel. I have the bustle rack and extended bustle rack done along with some bits and peices on the turret.
I have a Voyager photo etch set for the Tamiya Abrams and I am gonna see if I can use anything to spruce up the Dragon kit.
BroAbrams
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:32 PM UTC
I am not using any AM on this one. I want to see what the kit will produce straight out of the box.
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 09:21 AM UTC
BroAbrams
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 05:57 AM UTC
A word of warning to those currently building this, the back of the turret stowage boxes are mis-marked. M7 goes with M9 while M6 and M8 go together.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 07:46 AM UTC
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A word of warning to those currently building this, the back of the turret stowage boxes are mis-marked. M7 goes with M9 while M6 and M8 go together.
Rob,
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Could you explain what you meant to us, non-experts, and who WILL be building the kit? Thanks in advance. BroAbrams
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 09:02 AM UTC
The back pieces of the two turret stowage boxes are switched in the instructions. They are labeled backwards. Also the rear piece of the turret doesn't fit very well. Be prepared to do a little work in this region.
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BroAbrams
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 09:55 AM UTC
Okay, bad news. My camera cable broke. I can't upload any pics of the work I have done until I get a new one. I will try to get one tomorrow.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 02:08 PM UTC
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A word of warning to those currently building this, the back of the turret stowage boxes are mis-marked. M7 goes with M9 while M6 and M8 go together.
Agrhhh... I checked the instructions four times before printing and still missed a few of those errors. Sorry about that!
Pawel
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:02 AM UTC
Dragon sent me a replacement hull to replace the one that came in the kit. As Pawel pointed out the old hull had a small tab broken off during the manufacturing process. It is nice to see them have this level of attention to detail.
Okay, finally can uploaded some more pics.
Okay, finally can uploaded some more pics.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:22 AM UTC
Looking good. 
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 01:21 PM UTC
Rob,
You made two minor mistakes in assembly (maybe they were caused by errors in instructions?... I need to check...).
1. I think you swapped the left and center exhaust grille parts. The widest part should be on the left and the medium one in the center.
2. you attached the loader's hatch catch parts in the wrong place for this configuration of blow-off panels. You attached the catch parts on the hatch lip - in fact they should be attached directly to the hatch closer to the hinge. There is a small notch on the lip and this is where catch base should be glued on. when assembled correctly two catch parts: on the hatch and on the cable conduit, actually meet when hatch is open like in the real thing.
Your model looks great. I started painting mine already - I will post some pics soon.
Pawel
You made two minor mistakes in assembly (maybe they were caused by errors in instructions?... I need to check...).
1. I think you swapped the left and center exhaust grille parts. The widest part should be on the left and the medium one in the center.
2. you attached the loader's hatch catch parts in the wrong place for this configuration of blow-off panels. You attached the catch parts on the hatch lip - in fact they should be attached directly to the hatch closer to the hinge. There is a small notch on the lip and this is where catch base should be glued on. when assembled correctly two catch parts: on the hatch and on the cable conduit, actually meet when hatch is open like in the real thing.
Your model looks great. I started painting mine already - I will post some pics soon.
Pawel
Epi
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 05:08 PM UTC
Yup Pawel, I did the same thing with the hatch lock. I had a feeling that the notch on the hatch is where the lock was supposed to be glued, but I glued right where the one you are supposed to cut off went. The instructions where a little vauge on that.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 05:25 PM UTC
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The instructions where a little vauge on that.
Yes, indeed - I would even say that instructions are just wrong... The arrow points to the place where cut off piece was. Sorry about that!
If you look closely at painting diagram for 1-64 tank you can see the correct placement, but of course it is difficult to expect modelers to notice it there.
Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:34 AM UTC
Rob, What The Foxtrot are you calling a transom? Out here. 
Coolaznkid
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 04:07 AM UTC
Aw, sweet an Abrams in-progress build! I'm going to watch this closely! 
ViperAtl
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:46 AM UTC
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Quoted TextA word of warning to those currently building this, the back of the turret stowage boxes are mis-marked. M7 goes with M9 while M6 and M8 go together.
Agrhhh... I checked the instructions four times before printing and still missed a few of those errors. Sorry about that!
Pawel
I say we take Pawel out back behind the woodshed and beat him senseless with fluffy pillows and comfy chair.
Still waiting for the arrival at the LHS. *standing in pool of drool*
mightymouse
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 04:04 PM UTC
Why does it take so long for a model to arrive at a LHS? It seems every other industry has their products at retail outlets the day of its launch...
Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 04:48 PM UTC
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Why does it take so long for a model to arrive at a LHS? It seems every other industry has their products at retail outlets the day of its launch...
This is because "launch" is a relative thing. DML start production of each new kit with a small first batch. This batch is then distributed to reviewers, conultants etc. Full scale production starts a few days later and in some cases first comments from reviewers can be used to make last minute corrections to parts before full scale production starts.
This means that when you first read the pre-review of the kit at Armorama, the actual production of the kit have not started yet!
Other manufacturers probably announce the "launch" of kits when they are already on their way to shops.
But even once the production starts at DML, it takes time before enough is produced to get them to all LHSs around the world. Remember that wholesale shipments are not done using express courier services, but by regular - rather slow - freight services.
Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:41 PM UTC
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You mean like the proverbial "slow boat from China"? But even once the production starts at DML, it takes time before enough is produced to get them to all LHSs around the world. Remember that wholesale shipments are not done using express courier services, but by regular - rather slow - freight services.
Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:58 PM UTC
very nicely detailed kitset persee, but what a plain and ugly tank the Abrams is compared to a Leopard A6, Brit Challenger 11 or French Leclerc, unless you are an American of course :-)
ViperAtl
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 08:38 PM UTC
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very nicely detailed kitset persee, but what a plain and ugly tank the Abrams is compared to a Leopard A6, Brit Challenger 11 or French Leclerc, unless you are an American of course :-)
True it may be plain but to those who use it consider it to be a very pretty tank. Than again, with the plain and simple lines there is less to snag a boot toe and fall off.
The Challenger is a nice looking tank too. I'm just waiting for a Scottish unit to put Tartan track skirts on it. :-) :-) :-)
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